Even if there was, there are countries where German is the official language, so Germans have at least one nation to appeal to. Romani people do not have this advantage.
I've seen almost all of these arguments before, BTW.
Dr. House wrote:Romani or Roma is Romani for Gypsy. It doesn't make any sense. Will the Germans also become Deutsches, Dojčové? Crazy PC, if you ask me.
Just because we use the endonym for one group of people doesn't mean we have to do it for all groups. "German" is not considered a pejorative term, and Germans have not been persecuted for hundreds of years. As mōdgethanc pointed out, we use "Jew"; "Jew" comes from the Hebrew endonym Yehudi
. If we can use "Jew," why not "Roma"? What's the big deal?
The Gypsies call themselves Gypsies here, only media calls them Roma.
Just because they call themselves that when speaking Czech or any other language doesn't mean it's okay for any of us outsiders to do that, too. The use of that word is usually an in-group thing, so it's quite likely that if you're not within the group, you're not supposed to use it. Black people here often use the n-word to refer to themselves and each other, too, but that doesn't make it the least bit okay for other people to use it.
It's not as bad situation as the one with the N word in the USA
Who is deciding? Isn't it up to the Roma themselves to decide whether it's as bad as that or not? And how is it even possible to know what they think when they are consistently discriminated against, the mutual mistrust between Roma and non-Roma is deep, and the discrimination is getting worse and worse?
, but I have an old German-Arabic excerise book that says aswad means ni**er and the plural is sudan, which means that the country of Sudan can actually mean blacks or ni**ers... I don't use the N word, because I don't like it, but cikán (Czech for Gypsy) is okay with me.
Tbh, this is the only part I've never heard before. I don't even see how any of this is relevant, including the last part. Frankly, how does it matter whether it's okay with you? You are not part of the ethnic group being discussed here.
It's okay with the Gypsies when I say it around them...
Is it? How do you know? If you say it around them, do they really have any choice but to let you do it? And besides, why would they want to risk a confrontation with you?
EDIT: Sorry, I meant to say this when I wrote this but forgot. I think probably this discussion should be moved to the one about views on Romani people, but I'm not sure which post would be considered the start of this discussion, really.