European Parliament Elections 2014

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Levike » 2014-05-25, 18:39

I voted with the Hungarian RMDSZ party.

It's the party representing the Hungarian minority and it has majority in three counties.

They'll certainly get some seats, like always, so I'm not really concerned.

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-05-25, 22:39

I haven't seen all countries, but judging from some of them, it seems we're going to have quite an interesting Parliament.

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby md0 » 2014-05-25, 22:47

http://live.elections.moi.gov.cy/Englis ... Islandwide

Hopefully there's going to be a new election next Sunday, because this one can't possibly be deemed legitimate when you have anti-terror police throwing people out of the voting stations.

Anyway, nothing changes for Cyprus, vote was equally split between the major parties: 2 EPP, 2 S&D, 2 GUE/NGL, like 2009.

Despite the electoral fraud that targeted Turkish Cypriots, the bicommunal parties and candidacies reached 2%. Levent alone got 1.05%.
If all eligible voters were allowed to vote instead of being thrown out of the building, DRASY and Levent (and CSP/KSP) could possibly overtake ELAM (Cyprus Golden Dawn affiliate).
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby loqu » 2014-05-25, 23:17

xivrox wrote:I’m really glad to see them, British UKIP, French Front National, Dutch PVV, and other eurosceptic (or rather "unionsceptic", since they’re not against Europe, but they want Europe without the EU) doing so well. :yep:

Hey, well done for celebrating xenophobia. Those nice people in those parties make this world a better place to live... if you're NOT a migrant.

I can celebrate that the Spanish equivalent to those xenophobic bigots haven't managed to get a single seat in the European Parliament - we had 54 to assign and they got none of them.

And the results in Spain have been quite interesting - and positive in my point of view. The two big parties lost many seats - the Christian Democrats (PP) went from 24 to 16, the Social Democrats (PSOE) went from 23 to 14. Communists rose from 2 to 6, the New Socialists from Podemos got 5 seats. The Basque and Catalan conservatives kept their 3, the Catalan progressives got 2, the Basque and Galician progressives 1 and the Valencian progressives 1 as well. Two parties whose only ideology is the preservation of the Spanish unity got 4 and 2 seats.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Varislintu » 2014-05-26, 6:39

loqu wrote:I can celebrate that the Spanish equivalent to those xenophobic bigots haven't managed to get a single seat in the European Parliament - we had 54 to assign and they got none of them.


Really? Wow, that's quite amazing.

Here in Finland they (Perussuomalaiset) got 2 out of 13 seats. During this election, I found out that they are even climate change deniers, a new low even in my eyes. :shock:

I voted for a party on the left in the political spectrum.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Ludwig Whitby » 2014-05-26, 7:14

Incredibly low turnout. I love the Slovaks with their 13%. Man do they just not give a shit.

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby md0 » 2014-05-26, 7:30

Radio interview about the fraud, in English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w4rjKddBPg
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Saim » 2014-05-26, 7:34

loqu wrote:the Valencian progressives 1 as well.


El Bloc ha entrat! :D

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby loqu » 2014-05-26, 8:33

Varislintu wrote:
loqu wrote:I can celebrate that the Spanish equivalent to those xenophobic bigots haven't managed to get a single seat in the European Parliament - we had 54 to assign and they got none of them.


Really? Wow, that's quite amazing.

Yes! To be true, they were the next party in line to get a seat. If there had been 55 seats to be assigned, they would have gotten 1. But still they said they would sit with the EPP group in the European Parliament, which is a bit odd given their proposals.

To be honest, they are a new party and I think it's good for the health of democracy that they exist. Up to now we had a single big right-wing party which includes every non-left-wing tendency, from the centre economic liberals (we have no party in the "yellow section" of the spectrum and we need them) to the strictly Christian conservatives and the far-right, which leads to this big party winning most electoral processes, because in the left-wing it doesn't happen the same way.

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loqu wrote:the Valencian progressives 1 as well.


El Bloc ha entrat! :D

Sí. :D Amb molta dificultat, però... i ara haurà de compartir l'escó amb els altres partits de la candidatura.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby TeneReef » 2014-05-26, 9:40

Results in Croatia:

6 mandates to the right wing coalition
4 mandates to center left
1 mandate to the greens (the Orah [walnut] party) I voted for them

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Lur » 2014-05-26, 10:52

So. Nazis. Here we're going to have to fight people who don't vote and those voting nazi or semi diluted nazi who are quite a few.

The extrapolations from this to the next general election are not good, although we have this left party with three times more votes and a 4 month old formation (which I don't like at all) taking a good portion and scaring a bit our right, who aren't really used to democracy.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-05-26, 10:54

So. Nazis. Here we're going to have to fight people who don't vote and those voting nazi or semi diluted nazi who are quite a few.


Who are the nazis you're talking about?

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Lur » 2014-05-26, 10:55

xivrox wrote:I’m really glad to see them, British UKIP, French Front National, Dutch PVV, and other eurosceptic (or rather "unionsceptic", since they’re not against Europe, but they want Europe without the EU) doing so well. :yep:

I knew this dude was like this, but eeew.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Lur » 2014-05-26, 10:58

IpseDixit wrote:
So. Nazis. Here we're going to have to fight people who don't vote and those voting nazi or semi diluted nazi who are quite a few.


Who are the nazis you're talking about?

The ones elsewhere.

And here, there's a really strong fascist component underlying everything. Hell, you can even get parties with fascist symbols presenting on election. Then they go to Portugal and get detained because apology of fascism is illegal there :lol:


A friend of Galicia was really sad about the drop of the progressive nationalist party there (lots of people voting conservative, because apparently it has been going so well). Its coalition (Galician-Asturian-Basque-Aragonese) got one seat. Or something like this. I'm confused about the details of the process.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Патрислав Андреевич » 2014-05-26, 11:09

Hoogstwaarschijnlijk wrote:Eeeh, the PVV hasn't done well, it has had the biggest loss of all the parties.
I had old data, it seems. But the successes of other parties like it... :D

loqu wrote:Hey, well done for celebrating xenophobia. Those nice people in those parties make this world a better place to live... if you're NOT a migrant.
I’d choose them over the ones calling for more “European integration” at all times. I don’t care what they want to do in their respective countries, it’s not my problem. I care about what they want to do with EU, and since we’re forced to be part of it, I support them in their anti-unionism. :roll:

I can celebrate that the Spanish equivalent to those xenophobic bigots haven't managed to get a single seat in the European Parliament - we had 54 to assign and they got none of them.
That’s sad. Spain has yet to wake up, the rest of Europe slowly is. :yep:

Lur wrote:So. Nazis.

:rotfl:


KNP got 7%. :) It’s not much, but they at least entered, for the first time. Especially since there were so much propaganda against them in the mainstream media. But it’s a good sign, I feel the wind of changes already... :whistle:

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Levike » 2014-05-26, 11:14

The party I voted for got 7%. :partyhat:

Which means they're going to send three people:

Iuliu Winkler, Csaba Sogor and Vincze-Loránd György

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Lur » 2014-05-26, 11:21

So there were incidents. They hid the ballots for the Galician-Asturian-Basque-Aragonese coalition on several places. In some locations they only had PP, PSOE and Falange :lol: And there were people putting PP ballots on supposedly empty envelopes. Media: "the election has been going on without incidents."
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby md0 » 2014-05-26, 11:25

From Greece I hear that Golden Dawn attacked Antarsya voters in areas Antarsya had a presence (Greece was also voting for mayors yesterday).

I don't understand why in other countries (Greece, and apparently also Spain) there's a separate ballot for each list.
Over here, it's a single ballot with all parties and candidates on it. They can't hide the ballots they don't like that way. You get a single ballot with everyone on it.

But yeah, we have other ways of rigging the elections here. We don't do discreet, we go all-out.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-05-26, 11:30

The ones elsewhere.


Except of Golden Dawn, who are the Nazis elsewhere?
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby md0 » 2014-05-26, 11:39

NPD seems to elect a couple of MEPs in Germany.

The Liberals, for another.

President of Greek Liberals (a gay man no less): Tonight we are all Golden Dawn. Fascism was always dark Red.
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Greek Liberals voter: If there wasn't a Liberals list, I'd vote for Golden Dawn, yes! The survivors of the Polytechnic Uprising destroyed Greece.
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And there's the grand family of Front National and other similar parties like UKIP, which make even worse job of hiding their racist credentials than the Liberals.
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