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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Hoogstwaarschijnlijk » 2014-05-10, 17:57

Haven't read all of your comments, I will try to do that later.

I have no idea what to vote. I really want to vote, but there just doesn't seem a party that shares my view. Or at least not a party that makes a chance to get a Dutch member of the parliament.

What I'd like a party to be:
- big enough to get a Dutch representative
- slightly eurosceptic, in the sense that I feel like the EU should be only about economical issues, as small as possible and don't make countries to have laws they don't want. I don't think we should abandon the EU all together but progressive parties make me nervous, they don't seem to look at what people want, at the national cultures and their interests. The Netherlands is a small country, we should be able to make our own laws.
- progressive when it's about gay rights
- they must see the importance of nature, environment and biodiversity and see that this is more important than short-term economy

All the 'quizes' I took said SGP, they're very christian, which doesn't really match my most important point about the gay rights, hmpf... Have to read more about the different EU-parties/blocks/fractions.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby TeneReef » 2014-05-11, 1:25

I will be voting for a party named ORAH (Walnut) :partyhat:

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The party was formed in 2013. Its leader is a former Minister of Environmental Protection and Nature and Social Democratic Party MP Mirela Holy, who is the party's only member of parliament in the 7th assembly.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Saim » 2014-05-11, 11:05

IpseDixit wrote:her ideas about nation-states.


Her ideas about nation-states are that they're indivisible and all-important, no?

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-05-11, 17:23

Saim wrote:
IpseDixit wrote:her ideas about nation-states.


Her ideas about nation-states are that they're indivisible and all-important, no?


Her view is that a nation-state is the best protection that normal citizens have against the power of big multinational corporations, financial institutions and a savage globalized capitalism, as opposed to the UE's idea of a weak nation-state where more and more chunks of national sovereignty are ceased in favour of a supranational organization which, as it's probably clear to all of us by now, cares much more about business than European peoples and cultures.

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Spaigelploatje » 2014-05-20, 23:00

I have the feeling I don't have much choice..

VVD - breaking down our country till nothing is left. Why would I vote on such a party in Europe?
PVV - Idiots with xenophobic behaviour
PvdA - How many times can they revert from an earlier opinion? You don't know what their opinion ultimately is.
CDA - Christianity should not be in politics, also very patronising.
Christenunie/SGP - See CDA, but extremely patronising
D66 - Too pro-Europe, just give away our country to Brussels..
GroenLinks - I don't like their views on Europe, too pro-Europe, too money-spending. Stupid ideas on traditions.
PvDD - their ideas for farmers are ideas I cannot accept
SP - Might be close, euro-sceptic, pro 'own'-workers, but not realistic about budgets..
Smaller parties - Never heard of them

Pirate party - Well, I like their ideas about a free internet, maybe they can share their ideas in the European Parliament and on other topics their vote won't be that important as they're not part of a huge European party..

So, I guess I will vote the pirate party.

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Hoogstwaarschijnlijk » 2014-05-24, 8:51

Good analysis Spiegelplaatje...

So, I voted on the PvdD eventually (I'm not a farmer so that's not that important to me but I agree about their basic view + they think nature & homo-emancipation is important), even though I thought it would be useless because they wouldn't get a representative.

But it seems they will! Ha, so now I'm glad that I just voted for the party that I liked best.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby md0 » 2014-05-24, 8:57

30k people are denied the right to vote in Cyprus, because a) civil servants can't read so they input people's data in the system wrong, b) the list was compiled and released only 3 days before the elections leaving little reaction time and c) the MinInt is too embarrassed to admit wrongdoing and postpone the elections

http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/05/24/some- ... e-to-vote/

I was going to vote for the anti-imperialist Şener Levent, but that incident reminded me that if your vote mattered, then you'd be one of those who weren't given the right to vote in the first place.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Johanna » 2014-05-24, 15:18

I voted last week, for the Pirate Party.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-05-24, 15:22

I'm going to vote tomorrow and I'm still torn between two parties.

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Sol Invictus » 2014-05-24, 17:11

I voted for the main rulling party, since today is the last day and voter activity is extremly low - I figured that I'd like my vote to count for something, rather than to find out that what I chose didn't get in because nobody voted

Also given we only get to elect 8 people, I'd rather would like, if they'd let us pick which people we want, rather than parties

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby loqu » 2014-05-24, 18:32

I voted last week for a coalition that's supposed to join the Greens/EFA in the European Parliament. It's called European Spring.

They are formed by:
- Coalició Compromís, left-wing nationalists from the Valencian Country
- Equo, an eco-socialist party, the 'new' greens
- Chunta Aragonesista, left-wing nationalists from Aragón
and several minor parties with left-wing ideologies like:
- Por un mundo más justo (For a fairer world)
- Democracia participativa (Participative democracy)
- Partido Castellano (Castilian Party - Castilian nationalists)
- Partido Caballas ("Mackerel" Party - left-wing regionalists from Ceuta)
- Socialistas Independientes de Extremadura (Independent Socialists of Extremadura)

I hope they get at least one seat.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Marah » 2014-05-24, 18:38

I think I'll vote for the Greens too.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Saim » 2014-05-24, 20:48

loqu wrote:I voted last week for a coalition that's supposed to join the Greens/EFA in the European Parliament. It's called European Spring.

They are formed by:
- Coalició Compromís, left-wing nationalists from the Valencian Country
- Equo, an eco-socialist party, the 'new' greens
- Chunta Aragonesista, left-wing nationalists from Aragón
and several minor parties with left-wing ideologies like:
- Por un mundo más justo (For a fairer world)
- Democracia participativa (Participative democracy)
- Partido Castellano (Castilian Party - Castilian nationalists)
- Partido Caballas ("Mackerel" Party - left-wing regionalists from Ceuta)
- Socialistas Independientes de Extremadura (Independent Socialists of Extremadura)

I hope they get at least one seat.


Jo també ho espero. Si podria votar aquí, hagués estat entre aquests i la coalició de Bildu i el BNG. Però els del Partido Castellano són una mica... bueno, rarets...

http://www.partidocastellano.org/es/con ... iddoc=8939
La organización en Cataluña del PARTIDO CASTELLANO (PCAS) ante las acciones realizadas por el Gobierno de la Generalitat de Cataluña que preside Artur Mas, encaminadas a obtener una independencia unilateral de Cataluña, quiere expresar ante la opinión pública su rechazo a las mismas, por considerar que supondrán una grave agresión a los derechos de la población castellana y castellano parlante residente en esta Comunidad Autónoma.

Así mismo, los castellanistas residentes en Cataluña, conocedores de que un significativo número de castellanos estarán presentes en la Concentración "Somos Cataluña, Somos España" que se desarrollará el próximo día 12 de Octubre en Barcelona, queremos expresar nuestro apoyo crítico a este Acto.

http://www.partidocastellano.org/es/not ... iddoc=7182
ENTENDEMOS QUE EL CATALÁN NOS ENRIQUECE PERO EL CASTELLANO NOS INTEGRA A TODOS, como lengua común y mayoritaria que es; es la lengua franca que se usa en caso de duda.
- Queremos suprimir la ley de acogida que consagra el catalán como lengua de integración y entendemos que la lengua de acogida en Cataluña y toa España tiene que ser el castellano (común) sobre todo para los inmigrantes de los países latinoamericanos o de Iberoamérica que vienen a España con el CASTELLANO COMO LENGUA MATERNA PROPIA.


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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby loqu » 2014-05-24, 21:04

Ja. Per a pactar amb ells, els de Compromís i la Chunta han hagut de tapar-se el nas. Però mira, no van en llocs d'eixida i tots els vots que hi puguen afegir, bé estan.

El nucli dur del valencianisme ja ha criticat Compromís molt per pactar amb Equo... imagina't el que pensen del PCAS.

Els que em fan gràcia són els Caballas, que volen crear l'Acadèmia de l'Àrab Ceutí :D
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Saim » 2014-05-24, 21:33

loqu wrote:
Els que em fan gràcia són els Caballas, que volen crear l'Acadèmia de l'Àrab Ceutí :D


Hehe sí, molaria - espero que ho facin, que se suposa que fixarien unes normes ortogràfiques (seria una millora pel que fa el caos que és el darija escrit) i crearien més recursos per l'aprenentatge de la llengua. :P

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby md0 » 2014-05-25, 11:43

The anti-terror squad was used to drive out Turkish Cypriot trade-unionists who showed up to vote after being reassured (12hrs before the elections) that they will be allowed to vote in the end.

They most likely can sue after that. Let's hope those elections are declared null and void, because it's a sham.
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby md0 » 2014-05-25, 12:57

Well that goes swimmingly

Quotes from Deniz Birinci, a MEP candidate who's at the ballot station
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[name] caught my moment of frustration, yes these are difficult moments, there are moments when tears come down my eyes due to frustration, when thousands of people tell us ''we came to vote for you but they didn't let us''... This is very shameful... A huge disgrace for European democracy...

Officials are telling Turkish Cypriots to go back to their birthplaces like the vilages of Paphos and Limassol and try to vote there!!! THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD INTERVENE RIGHT NOW TO STOP THIS INSULT TO ITS OWN CITIZENS.

We are asking everyone who is denied the right to vote to get an official paper stating their ID number on and the fact that they were denied to vote. The officials at Ledra Palace are giving this. In other pollings stations like Pyrgo, officials are refusing to do so. Can we get some press attention to those checkpoints as well too pls?

The Cypriot Minister of Interior Mr. Hasikos said he had more important things to do than to listen to me. He told me he can't stay and talk as he was in a hurry... to smoke his cigarette!!!!... I thought he was kidding, but he was damn serious. He turned his back and walked away to smoke his cigarette and his bodyguards pushed us away so that he could do it in peace...

Even my grandpa could not vote for me! They told him he lives in Paphos. We made his ID application together and submitted his address in Göçmenköy. In paphos all we have is just a few pieces of stones and they are telling us that he lives there so his name is not on the list of eligible people to vote!!!!!! SHAME ON YOU.

Cyprus Interior Minister: "Of course I shouted, women started talking, I had to!"


Greek Cypriot police arrested Greek Cypriots in Vrysoulles who are fighting for the right to vote of hundreds of Turkish Cypriots who are turned down from the polling stations!!!!!!!!!!'
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby md0 » 2014-05-25, 16:50

Most recent statement from Marina Payatsu, a Drasy-Eylem candidate
It wasn't mere "tensions" at the electoral station near Ledra Palace, like the mass media wanted to convey (those who care to do so at all)

The government sent the anti-terror squad at the electoral station that was full with Turkish Cypriots protesting their exclusion from the electoral catalogue. That's their concept of Democracy! Where on earth does the anti-terror squad invade an electoral station?!

Among the protesters there were KTöS trade-unionists [Turkish Cypriot Teachers Union], who demanded to receive written proof of being denied the right to vote from the Minister of Interior, and they succeeded in doing so. Using that proof, they will go legally after the Republic.

The Minister wasn't there to talk to the protesters, of course, but rather to attack them. "I can't discuss with mouthy women" and "I have more important matters to attend" were some of his expressions. Among others, he mentioned "Wasn't enough that we granted them a favour and let [some of] them vote?"

But that was no favour! They took away their democratic right!

The Turkish Cypriots who possess a RoCyprus ID card are EU citizens and like all other EU nationals, they have the right to vote in the European Elections. No one "granted them a right". They have that right. The Government, by abusing the law they themselves voted saying they want to "include them in the elections", is actually excluding them from the elections.

The Turkish Cypriots rightfully demand that the Minister of Interior resigns!
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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Патрислав Андреевич » 2014-05-25, 17:33

So, I voted for KNP today, the only party I agree with, with the chance to enter the europarliament, and one of only two (with Poland Together, which isn’t eurosceptic, but calls for heavy reforms of it) that are truly right-wing.

They are the only party that could change anything (I mean generally, nothing can be changed in europarliament), which is why both the ruling and opposition parties unite in their propaganda against it. It even went so far that the prime minister (!) said it’s “his duty to not let them win”. :whistle:

I’m really glad to see them, British UKIP, French Front National, Dutch PVV, and other eurosceptic (or rather "unionsceptic", since they’re not against Europe, but they want Europe without the EU) doing so well. :yep:

P.S. The last communist leader of Poland died today! Even more, today is the anniversary of Witold Pilecki’s (one of the fighters for free Poland after the WW2) execution by the communist secret police. It’s a sign of some kind. :lol:

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Re: European Parliament Elections 2014

Postby Hoogstwaarschijnlijk » 2014-05-25, 18:25

xivrox wrote:I’m really glad to see them, British UKIP, French Front National, Dutch PVV, and other eurosceptic (or rather "unionsceptic", since they’re not against Europe, but they want Europe without the EU) doing so well. :yep:


Eeeh, the PVV hasn't done well, it has had the biggest loss of all the parties.
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