Levente.Maier wrote:Marah wrote:So why do you want to tear Switzerland apart?
I like multilingual states but I still prefer the "one language one country thing".
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Levente.Maier wrote:Marah wrote:So why do you want to tear Switzerland apart?
I like multilingual states but I still prefer the "one language one country thing".
Levente.Maier wrote:Sorry but I have this seemingly funny idea that every country should have ONE standard language that everyone should know.
linguoboy wrote:Unless you stomp out minority languages altogether and forbid immigration, you'll always have situations where citizens of a country have a mother language which is not the same as the official standard language. Why should their linguistic rights be ignored?
I don't know how Slovenian interests would be better defended in a country with Austrian majority. And what kind of language would we speak in this Noricum?linguoboy wrote:Here's the sort of thing I'd do if I were dictator:
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Ludwig Whitby wrote:Please, people leave Macedonia alone.
1. Everyone has the right to name himself, the citizens of that country chose the name Macedonia, not Skopje, let them have that right.
2. They are a nation of their own, a young nation, but a nation nontheless, with a language of their own (officially since 1945) and are brutally aware of the past attempts at serbification and bulgarization. So, no to any possible union with one of those two countries.
linguoboy wrote:My prescription as world dictator? Plebiscites for everyone what wants 'em.
"Geopolitical stability" is just another convenient excuse for perpetuating an unjust status quo.
HoItalosPhilellên wrote:Ludwig Whitby wrote:Please, people leave Macedonia alone.
1. Everyone has the right to name himself, the citizens of that country chose the name Macedonia, not Skopje, let them have that right.
2. They are a nation of their own, a young nation, but a nation nontheless, with a language of their own (officially since 1945) and are brutally aware of the past attempts at serbification and bulgarization. So, no to any possible union with one of those two countries.
They should have every right to call it Македонија, in their own language, certainly, but in my little "wonderland", I'd like it to be known Scopian Republic in the English language at the least.
I still can't help but pity the poor people of the country every time I see this:
http://i.imgur.com/NvvNpPh.png
We can all guess that "Aleksandar Veliki" probably spoke a language more related to "Macedonian" than to the ancient Greek dialects of his time, amirite?
Ludwig Whitby wrote:My advice: Rename the airport in Athens to Krste Misirkov Airport. Or even better Toshe Proeski airport. And claim they're all Greeks.
HoItalosPhilellên wrote:Ludwig Whitby wrote:My advice: Rename the airport in Athens to Krste Misirkov Airport. Or even better Toshe Proeski airport. And claim they're all Greeks.
I don't mean to sound intentionally offensive, but why in the world would the Greeks want or even need to do that?
Ludwig Whitby wrote:To annoy the Macedonians. Isn't this whole naming dispute about annoying the Macedonians?
EDIT: Oh wait, what? You don't want to sound offensive? And you used the term Scopian two posts ago?
HoItalosPhilellên wrote:EDIT: Oh wait, what? You don't want to sound offensive? And you used the term Scopian two posts ago?
Hence "Scopian" instead of "Skopjan".
mōdgethanc wrote:The locals seem to disagree, so let the UK keep them.1. Falkland Islands returned to Argentina. Gibraltar returned to Spain.
That's going to cause [T]rouble.2. The island of Ireland reunited as one country independent from Great Britain.
Don't see the point of that.3. Dravidian speaking South India becomes an independent country.
Terrible idea. The USA is already dominant here - why formalize it?9. North America united in some form.
Terrible idea. Those countries think of themselves as Arab, not European, and Europeans are already racist enough against them.12. North Africa is integrated into the E.U. (the vast majority of North Africa's population is found in Mediterranean cities that historically orient towards Europe).
- North and South Korea should come up with a long-term plan for reunification.
Ludwig Whitby wrote:Skopjan is an already existing English word. Scopian (more commonly Skopian) is a derogatory term for ethnic Macedonians.
HoItalosPhilellên wrote:Ludwig Whitby wrote:To annoy the Macedonians. Isn't this whole naming dispute about annoying the Macedonians?
I think Greece would honestly care less about them wanting to be known as Macedonia in English and every other language except their own if they were just willing to acknowledge their true history and not attempt to propel a lie to the world.
Yasna wrote:linguoboy wrote:My prescription as world dictator? Plebiscites for everyone what wants 'em.
That sounds like a recipe for chaos.
Yasna wrote:Are you saying that if the residents of some Chinatown in America voted for that Chinatown to leave the United States and join the PRC, you would advocate respecting their choice?
linguoboy wrote:HoItalosPhilellên wrote:Ludwig Whitby wrote:To annoy the Macedonians. Isn't this whole naming dispute about annoying the Macedonians?
I think Greece would honestly care less about them wanting to be known as Macedonia in English and every other language except their own if they were just willing to acknowledge their true history and not attempt to propel a lie to the world.
Oh, the irony.
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