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Yasna wrote:The aim of these, um..., adjustments is to help foster long-term geopolitical stability.
Marah wrote:13. Ceuta and Melilla return to Morocco.
Yasna wrote:10. South America united in some form.
Marah wrote:Not necessarily, several countries have different languages and are just fine with it (hello Switzerland, hello Finland)
The locals seem to disagree, so let the UK keep them.1. Falkland Islands returned to Argentina. Gibraltar returned to Spain.
That's going to cause [T]rouble.2. The island of Ireland reunited as one country independent from Great Britain.
Don't see the point of that.3. Dravidian speaking South India becomes an independent country.
This is difficult. I'm tempted to say Pakistan should never have been created. In fact, I don't see why we wouldn't give Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka to India while we're at it. But there would be communal riots if we tried anything like that.4. Pakistan is dissolved and everything west of the Indus river goes to Iran and Afghanistan. Every to the east goes to India.
Don't think that's feasible. Also, Taiwan should be independent and only think of reunification if/when the PRC democratizes.5. Tibet becomes independent with the edges of the Tibetan Plateau as borders. Independence for Xinjiang as well. Taiwan is given to China.
Great idea.6. Sub-Saharan Africa is completely remade with new borders more closely reflecting pre-modern kingdoms, tribal territories and geographical boundaries.
Terrible idea. The USA is already dominant here - why formalize it?9. North America united in some form.
That would piss off a lot of people as Brazil would end up dominating any such arrangement. I agree that Spanish-speaking Latin America should be united as a counterweight against Brazil.10. South America united in some form.
Terrible idea. Those countries think of themselves as Arab, not European, and Europeans are already racist enough against them.12. North Africa is integrated into the E.U. (the vast majority of North Africa's population is found in Mediterranean cities that historically orient towards Europe).
Some of them would, some of them wouldn't. IMO a few of them might lead to outright war. But it's fun to speculate.The aim of these, um..., adjustments is to help foster long-term geopolitical stability.
The locals seem to disagree, so let the UK keep them.
Why should we let events from hundreds of years ago take precedence over the wishes of the people living there right now? Despite your use of scare quotes, they were born there and that makes them natives. Find me one country on earth that wasn't a colony of some other one at some point.Marah wrote:The problem is also how the "locals" originally got there. Gibraltar is a colony. The treaty was signed by a king as a result of a political plot, the king himself wasn't democratically elected AFAIK, so what is this treaty worth anyway? Were the residents in 1704 asked if they wanted to leave Spain?
If a large amount of foreign immigrants arrive at a place, claim it's theirs because democratically they're in a majority, will it become theirs?
mōdgethanc wrote:Why should we let events from hundreds of years ago take precedence over the wishes of the people living there right now?
Marah wrote:mōdgethanc wrote:Why should we let events from hundreds of years ago take precedence over the wishes of the people living there right now?
You can justify colonization with that.
I'm sorry, I'm failing to see how. I'm talking about the wishes of people who already live somewhere and whose ancestors have for hundreds of years, not about people who are settling somewhere new and claiming the land for themselves. (See my thoughts on Israeli settlers elsewhere.) So that's just an appeal to consequences.Marah wrote:You can justify colonization with that.
modgethanc wrote:I'm sorry, I'm failing to see how. I'm talking about the wishes of people who already live somewhere and whose ancestors have for hundreds of years, not about people who are settling somewhere new and claiming the land for themselves. (See my thoughts on Israeli settlers elsewhere.) So that's just an appeal to consequences.
linguoboy wrote:If Spain wants Gibraltar back, then it should have to convince the Gibraltarians it would be in their best interest.
Marah wrote:linguoboy wrote:If Spain wants Gibraltar back, then it should have to convince the Gibraltarians it would be in their best interest.
Hardly possible as long as they don't play by the same rules economically.
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