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Varislintu wrote:But anyway, yeah. One thing you, as a woman, often worry about, is whether the guy who's trying to pick you up is one of the looney ones.
meidei wrote:Now, on the topic of women's social roles (not necessarily feminism)
I was reading the news this noon and I noticed something that happens every 1 or 2 months.
A man isolates a woman somewhere, in this case, at the parking area of the building she lived, kills her, then he commits suicide.
Police discovers that the man was romantically pursuing the woman but she wouldn't respond. Labelled "a crime of passion" by the police, and if the man hadn't commit suicide, he'd receive a lighter sentence.
Now, in the rare occasion you hear about a woman killing a man for a "crime of passion", she is often his mistreated or even abused wife, and she is described either as "blinded by jealously" or something that makes her rage sound less "acceptable" and less "rational" than a man killing a woman that didn't want to date him.
So yeah. That happens regularly.
I think the expectation is still that the man will make the first move, so to speak, but I don't think it would be frowned upon if a woman did.Levo wrote:Is it accepted / normal that a woman openly starts flirting with a man, or asks him out for a date?
This is what we call the "master of the mixed message" and it's frustrating to men who just want to get laid but aren't sure if the woman is interested, but they need to remember that just because a woman is dressed sexily doesn't mean she wants to have sex with you. Too many men feel entitled to sex just because a hot woman flirts back with them. Either party is entitled to change their mind about that at any time.Many girls wear very short clothes, strong make-up, and look kind of slutty with standards over here. At the same time, on many of these, you can see from her behaviour, face, talk, etc... that she is actually only looking for a hug or a romantical kiss with a boy. Nothing more.
Varislintu wrote:Levo -- I know exactly what you mean! I don't know how much this goes on in Finland -- I've never felt I've not been supposed to take initiative, but I never experienced the "club scene" extensively so I can't say for sure that our culture totally allows that. I never encountered it explicitly, this thing where women cannot bring themselves to take inititive and thus end up using the weirdest "manipulation" instead. But we certainly used to have it to some extent, as in olden times dances and I think later even discos would have special events called "naisten haku", i.e. "women's pick-up", when it was the women who asked a partner to dance. Sounds ridiculous to me now.
And I also dislike this thing that women are given the message to manipulate instead of communicate. And I don't necessarily mean malicious manipulation, but just small-scale "use anything but your words" means-to-an-end kind of thing. It's like it's forbidden to talk honestly with a guy. There's this blog Pervocracy, where the author runs a series called Cosmocking, which makes fun of and calls out all the horrible advice the magazine Cosmopolitan touts to women. One running theme in the magazine is to advise women to pull all kind of weird stunts on their guys, because talking to them is apparently not an acceptable way to go about things. The series is hilarious, anyone interested should take a look :
Varislintu wrote:But we certainly used to have it to some extent, as in olden times dances and I think later even discos would have special events called "naisten haku", i.e. "women's pick-up", when it was the women who asked a partner to dance. Sounds ridiculous to me now.
Lur wrote:At least you get laid.
meidei wrote:Lur wrote:At least you get laid.
Dunno if that's directed to me, because I don't get laid. I value my distinct trait of being all in one piece and breathing, and as much as I hate my life, I don't want to be chopped in tiny pieces and left in a ditch somewhere.
meidei wrote:Lur wrote:At least you get laid.
Dunno if that's directed to me, because I don't get laid.
meidei wrote:Btw, all those three cases, in the same district. Larnaka. I always believed that Larnaka should be nuked out of existence, it's an all around shit-hole.
What do you expect when you site your capital in the middle of an immense graveyard? Send in the hieromonachoi to exorcise the shit out of that place.
meidei wrote:Now, I don't think that Larnaca (or the predecessor, Citium/Kítion) was never the capital.
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