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Re: Where do atheists go to worship?

Postby Saaropean » 2013-02-05, 23:00

Sophie wrote:Why, the atheist church, of course!


JackFrost wrote:That'd be irony to me. :roll:

I wouldn't call it irony. It just shows how much people in the UK have been shaped by this christian religion. If those people lived in a truly non-religious culture, they wouldn't think about using christian ideas (like singing songs in a building commonly known as "church" etc.). What they are doing is just a reaction to what the christian majority in their country and in the US is doing. It's nothing really original.

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Re: Where do atheists go to worship?

Postby johnklepac » 2013-02-07, 15:34

Saaropean wrote:I wouldn't call it irony. It just shows how much people in the UK have been shaped by this christian religion. If those people lived in a truly non-religious culture, they wouldn't think about using christian ideas (like singing songs in a building commonly known as "church" etc.). What they are doing is just a reaction to what the christian majority in their country and in the US is doing. It's nothing really original.

I've found it to be the same here with some of the more secular religious institutions that are nonetheless religious institutions, like some variants of Judaism and Unitarianism.

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Re: Where do atheists go to worship?

Postby Jurgen Wullenwever » 2013-02-16, 9:37

If an atheist worships Mammon (i.e. is greedy), is he still an atheist?

Or, in the same manner, strives to act benevolently, or morally, or just, thus worshipping their appropriate deities. Every single action can be interpreted in religious terms. Atheism might be impossible.
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Re: Where do atheists go to worship?

Postby Saaropean » 2013-02-16, 15:57

Jurgen Wullenwever wrote:If an atheist worships Mammon (i.e. is greedy), is he still an atheist?

Or, in the same manner, strives to act benevolently, or morally, or just, thus worshipping their appropriate deities. Every single action can be interpreted in religious terms. Atheism might be impossible.

I disagree. There's a difference between worshipping a god (e.g. sacrificing a lamb in a temple, praying for good weather and the perfect wife) and having certain character traits. What you describe as "worshipping Mammon" is not really a religious act, but a simple attitude utterly unrelated to religion. There are millions of greedy christians...

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Re: Where do atheists go to worship?

Postby Varislintu » 2013-02-16, 22:14

Just because you see animistic spirits in everything, Jurgen, doesn't mean other people do. :ohwell: I think you have to be aware of your own religious belief in order for your deliberate actions to count as religious worship. Otherwise we just come around 360 degrees and all human behaviour is religious, which means it means nothing and the term itself is nullified.
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Re: Where do atheists go to worship?

Postby Jurgen Wullenwever » 2013-02-17, 9:40

But this could be the base for a modern religious cosmology, uniting natural science, morality and chance into a comprehensible structure.

When we pay our taxes to the government, we give offerings to the Priest-King and the State God, or State Goddess.

When we have our cars controlled every year, we make our annual pilgrimage to the temple of the God of Roads and Transportation.

When we mow the lawn, we worship the Goddess of Habitation.

This is fun! :D
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Re: Where do atheists go to worship?

Postby Varislintu » 2013-02-18, 20:01

Hehe, I guess it is kinda fun if you start playing with the idea. :)
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