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Aurinĭa wrote:IMHO, Greece should name its province South Macedonia, to be fair. Not going to happen, I know.
Damn, I thought your avatar was just some generic antifa thing, but you're really out here stanning for anarchism in current year. This brings back memories of my idealistic youth before I became a cynic.Saim wrote:soedgy
mōdgethanc wrote:Damn, I thought your avatar was just some generic antifa thing, but you're really out here stanning for anarchism in current year. This brings back memories of my idealistic youth before I became a cynic.
The edgy thing was just a joke. You seem like more of an idealist. I sympathize, in fact; I would be an anarchist if I thought it could ever happen without the state overtaking it.Saim wrote:Am I edgy or am I an idealist?
I'm not sure if I'm necessarily an anarchist but I've had a visceral hatred of nation-states and borders for years now. I've also never 'supported the troops'.
I'd pick the one that isn't an authoritarian sham of a democracy and a warmongering, racist, homophobic theocracy. In other words, I'd pick Russia. this is also an edgy joke, I hate Trump but hate Putin moreI really don't feel like I have any actual stake in some conflict between Russia and the US (but if I have to choose sides, it'll be the state that didn't bomb the city I'm currently in).
I definitely don't think a neoconservative solution like regime change is a good idea and know meddling with Russia's internal politics can only backfire. War between Russia and NATO is also unthinkable because nukes. I only meant I support NATO for the purposes of countering Russia from expanding too much (which as you rightly pointed out, could also backfire). I don't really give a shit about NATO for any reason except that nobody in their right mind would attack it.Saim wrote:I don't have any positive feelings towards Putin or Russian nationalism (or the Russian State in general really) but I don't see how the American war machine can unseat him and replace him with anything better. My only interest at the geopolitical level is for there to not be a war, as I'm not in any way convinced that NATO winning a war against Russia would make the world a better place. As for unseating Putin, that's the job of opposition within Russia and I wish them luck; the only thing I can do as an individual is not contribute to symbiotic-but-counterposed nationalisms (i.e. not supporting NATO against Russia, because Russian nationalism presents itself as a guarantee against NATO). Any other suggestions for how to show solidarity (from progressive opposition groups in Russia themselves) are welcome, of course.
mōdgethanc wrote: I only meant I support NATO for the purposes of countering Russia from expanding too much (which as you rightly pointed out, could also backfire).
If I had to choose a country to live in, of course I'd pick any NATO country over Russia. But that's not setting the bar very high.
That might be true, although I'm not aware of Iraq making any expansionist attempts lately. Besides that, I have bigger moral problems with supporting Iran anyway.Saim wrote:I dunno, I don't really see the need to support NATO to counteract Russia in Ukraine or the Baltics than I feel the need to support Iran (or indeed Russia) to counteract the US in Iraq or Israel or whatever.
I would say so. I'm much more interested in Russia as a culture but on measures of quality of life, democracy, freedom etc. (and we can debate how unbiased those are, I know) they tend to come out ahead. Russia is just a fucked-up place right now. It seems to be more developed and crime is lower there than it was a decade ago, but it's still authoritarian and corrupt as hell.Including Albania, Montenegro, Turkey, Bulgaria, and such?
mōdgethanc wrote:although I'm not aware of Iraq making any expansionist attempts lately.
Besides that, I have bigger moral problems with supporting Iran anyway.
At the time I was in fact in favour of the war, until it became apparent that was the losing side. I was also 13, to be fair.Saim wrote:Sorry, I wrote that sentence in a way that's kind of ambiguous: I meant supporting Iran to counteract the US in Iraq.
No, both of those regimes are fucked up. If anything Saudi is worse.Bigger than supporting Saudi Arabia?
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