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Talib wrote:I'm just making this poll to gauge what this forum thinks about a topic I've discussed elsewhere and which is very controversial within Europe.
A better human rights record, for one.What is the benefit of joining the E.U. anyway? So they can end up like Greece? What can the EU offer Turkey that they can't do themselves?
Talib wrote:A better human rights record, for one.What is the benefit of joining the E.U. anyway? So they can end up like Greece? What can the EU offer Turkey that they can't do themselves?
You might ask why any country would want to join the EU. Who wouldn't want access to the world's largest internal market?
It appears so far they haven't had much success. Harmonization with the EU's laws might be good for Turkey.Why can't Turkey just fix their own human rights? Why would they need the EU to do it for them?
No, but they would be privy to the EU's trade agreements and common market. Being exclusive is sort of the point.Why can't they access it now? So if you're not in the EU, you can't sell to the EU? Sounds very exclusive.
Talib wrote:No, but they would be privy to the EU's trade agreements and common market. Being exclusive is sort of the point.Why can't they access it now? So if you're not in the EU, you can't sell to the EU? Sounds very exclusive.
Meera wrote:I think Turkey can join the EU now.
Formiko wrote:Talib wrote:No, but they would be privy to the EU's trade agreements and common market. Being exclusive is sort of the point.Why can't they access it now? So if you're not in the EU, you can't sell to the EU? Sounds very exclusive.
This is an honest question. If Canada decided to secede from England, could Canada survive? I think it would, but I really don't know how much cash the UK gives to Canada. It's sort of odd if you think about it. Other kingdoms conquered other countries and FORCED them to be a part of their Empire, and then they revolted. Now countries are begging to join an Empire, and being denied!! Amazing!
So if they can write bad pop songs, they must have a thriving democracy? I'll get Beirut on the phone immediately.Turkey can into Eurovision
So, Turkey can into EU either
You know Canada's independent, right? The Commonwealth isn't the same thing as the Empire.This is an honest question. If Canada decided to secede from England, could Canada survive? I think it would, but I really don't know how much cash the UK gives to Canada. It's sort of odd if you think about it. Other kingdoms conquered other countries and FORCED them to be a part of their Empire, and then they revolted. Now countries are begging to join an Empire, and being denied!! Amazing!
Talib wrote:So if they can write bad pop songs, they must have a thriving democracy? I'll get Beirut on the phone immediately.Turkey can into Eurovision
So, Turkey can into EU eitherYou know Canada's independent, right? The Commonwealth isn't the same thing as the Empire.This is an honest question. If Canada decided to secede from England, could Canada survive? I think it would, but I really don't know how much cash the UK gives to Canada. It's sort of odd if you think about it. Other kingdoms conquered other countries and FORCED them to be a part of their Empire, and then they revolted. Now countries are begging to join an Empire, and being denied!! Amazing!
In fact we celebrated our 143rd anniversary of independence today! What a coincidence!
And furthermore, what does any of that have to do with Turkey joining the European Union?
Partisan wrote:Turkey can into UEFA
Turkey can into Eurovision
So, Turkey can into EU either
Talib wrote:My problem isn't that Turkey isn't European - it's as European as Romania, probably. My concern is that Turkey's political system isn't Western enough. A lot of work remains to be done before Turkey is ready to meet the same standards as the rest of the EU. They've had since the 1980s to sort this out and so far they haven't been willing or able to.
loqu wrote:Partisan wrote:Turkey can into UEFA
Turkey can into Eurovision
So, Turkey can into EU either
you know that comparing UEFA and Eurovision with the EU is kind of absurd, don't you?
Partisan wrote:Turkey treats minorities as police case (like France and Spain)
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