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Ciarán12 wrote:You could compare him to Trump insofar as he's a conservative populist with a cult of personality around him who many people think is going to shake things up and make big, sweeping changes. He's also a fascist, racist, homophobe who apparently wants to arm the nation so the citazenry can go shoot up the bad guys in the streets. You know, instead of social reforms and investment in policing.
france-eesti wrote:right, he is a fascist and so on, but people won't vote for PT instead because they've had enough and it's made a terrible mess in the country
france-eesti wrote:What makes me sad is the they're not the only country with that kind of situation and only those options to vote - it's getting more and more common and I feel so sorry for the people who feel they don't really have a choice in something we insist on calling democracy!
Ciarán12 wrote:I don't think I've heard any polititians in my lifetime say anything as outragous as what Bolsonaro has said. I'd vote Trump in over him.
Luís wrote:Ciarán12 wrote:I don't think I've heard any polititians in my lifetime say anything as outragous as what Bolsonaro has said. I'd vote Trump in over him.
Yeah, I think Trump would be ashamed of some of these proposals (for those who don't speak Portuguese: forced sterilization of poor people, bombing favelas, leaving the UN, ending indigenous reserves and selling the land, arming all citizens with guns and giving most top positions in the government to the military)
Yasna wrote:These personality contests are going to be the death of democracy. Germany, the UK, and Japan have got it right. Elect parties and their representatives, and let the head of government reflect whatever governing coalition emerges. It eliminates these "pick the lesser of two evils" situations which everyone hates, and it encourages cooperation and convergence between political parties instead of scorched earth tactics.
kevin wrote:You mean because we don't directly elect the head of government? I don't think that really makes a difference for personality contests. Yes, technically you vote for a representative for your constituency or the party, but everyone knows that in the end it's May or Corbyn, Merkel or Schulz, etc.
In Britain, at least how your vote is related to the future government is still relatively clear, but in Germany it's not really any more because it has become kind of hard to predict what the parties will do with that vote after the election - especially since someone thought it was a good idea to form one grand coalition after another. The result is that even a vote for Schulz' party meant supporting Merkel's government in the end.
The choice between the lesser of two evils as the head of government gives you more control than the choice which of the smaller parties should be part of Merkel's coalition. This is cooperation and convergence taken too far, the vote has become more or less meaningless, because you just get a different shade of the same colour anyway. So if you don't want to support her, the only option is to vote for the extreme left or the extreme right, neither of which would be able to form a government.
Prowler wrote:Also it seems David Duke supports him, but Bolsonaro doesn't want his support. Smart PR move by him.
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