Romanian Dialects

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Romanian Dialects

Postby Cesare M. » 2013-06-12, 22:58

I am not sure if there is already a thread about this, and I am not studying Romanian at the moment (although I might consider going back to studying it more often next year), but I was just wondering if any of you who can speak a Romanian dialect, apart from Standard Romanian, can explain in detail in this thread all the important differences from what you know at the moment between your dialect and the standard one.

I am just very curious to know. Thanks.

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Re: Romanian Dialects

Postby AdiJapan » 2013-06-13, 1:57

Cesare M. wrote:I am not sure if there is already a thread about this, and I am not studying Romanian at the moment (although I might consider going back to studying it more often next year), but I was just wondering if any of you who can speak a Romanian dialect, apart from Standard Romanian, can explain in detail in this thread all the important differences from what you know at the moment between your dialect and the standard one.

I am just very curious to know. Thanks.

I'm not the one you're looking for, because the Romanian I speak is pretty much identical to the standard, but I might be able to help you finding what you need.

The phylogenetic tree of Romanian is two-tiered. First, the branch of Eastern Romance languages, of which Romanian is the best known, also consists of Aromanian, Macedo-Romanian, and Istro-Romanian. As you might know, the definition of dialect is somewhat fuzzy, so some linguists consider these four languages to be independent, others consider them dialects of Romanian (in which case the main dialect is called Daco-Romanian, to avoid confusion). You can look these up in Wikipedia.

Second, each of these languages/dialects further fork into smaller branches, that are usually called subdialects (although again there is no clear definition). Among them, Romanian has several subdialects, which differ from one another in pronunciation (the main classifying criterion), vocabulary, slightly in morphology, and are practically identical in syntax. For the non-specialists, the most obvious difference is in "accent" (certain sounds are pronounced differently) and in regional words.

The Wikipedia articles on these subdialects were written by myself, so I wouldn't presume to tell you they're good, but at least you can get some useful ideas. You can start from this article on all Romanian subdialects and then follow the links to individual articles.

Unfortunately, the sources I used there were all in Romanian, so they won't help you much. I can only confirm that my personal experience of traveling around Romania and talking with speakers of those subdialects agrees very well with what the sources say (which of course is rather a confirmation that my personal experience is okay, not that the sources were right.)
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Re: Romanian Dialects

Postby Levike » 2013-06-13, 9:59

Romanian, Aromanian, Meglenit, Istriot are different languages
but some people might see them as dialects.

As I looked at them I saw huge similarities, but a fluent conversation would be impossible.
It's like Spanish and Portuguese.

In Romania and Moldova we mostly speak the standard language ( almost always)
but there are minor differences between regions (very small if compared to Spanish dialects).

We call these regional variations graiuri. ( which is like a subdialect or subdialect of a subdialect )

This is how we sometimes speak in Transylvania:

1. We use a few Hungarian words like musai=obligatory or servustok=bye

2. Forming the past tense with "o" instead of "a" , for example a venit becomes o venit

3. Not pronouncing the definite article "ul", just the "u", like not calul but calu'

4. The pronoun Eu becomes Io

5. I am = Io îs/Io sânt and He is = El îi

6. then = atuncea ; nobody = nimenea ; now = acuma

But the standard language is holding on.
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Re: Romanian Dialects

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Re: Romanian Dialects

Postby Levike » 2015-06-10, 20:17

Moraczewski wrote:What dialect is this?

The one they speak in some Yugoslav country and/or around that region.

The only Romanians living there that I know of are the Timok Romanians.
Timok is a region is Serbia.

Dialects are not my speciality though.
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Re: Romanian Dialects

Postby Saim » 2015-07-29, 18:46

Cool song!

Levike wrote:The only Romanians living there that I know of are the Timok Romanians.
Timok is a region is Serbia.


There are also Romanians in Vojvodina, who never doubt about whether they're Romanians or not.

Among Timok Romanians, there's no consensus on whether they're Romanians by nationality or "Serbian Vlahs". For this reason the Vojvodina Romanians and Serbian Vlahs aren't usually classified together, and I imagine they speak different dialects of Dacoromanian.

EDIT: Apparently it's the Vlahs that are divided between northern and southern dialects, whereas the Vojvodinians all speak northern dialects.

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