LESSONS: "Kongruenssi" & Possessive suffixes

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LESSONS: "Kongruenssi" & Possessive suffixes

Postby Jonne » 2005-10-04, 14:59

*I don't know what's this in English*

Kongruenssi..It's very very simple indeed. It means that the adjective and substantive in a sentence have to be in same number and case. So, if the substantive is in plular, the adjective must be in plular too. Also, if if it's in inessive, the other words *adjective,demostrative pronouns* must be in it too.

tämä suuri kassi - this big bag
tässä suuressa kassissa - in this big bag

tämä=this, suuri=big/large, kassi=bag

iso poika - big boy
isot pojat - bog boys *if you don't know why there's a j, go to previous lesson and read the rules on gradation*

iso=big/large, poika=boy

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Then the possessive suffixes.

In English you say my car
but in Finnish it's Autoni

English-Finnish-Suffix
I - Minä - ni
You - Sinä - si
S/he - Hän - nsa/-nsä
We - Me - mme
You - Te - nne
They - He - nsa/-nsä

so, "book" is "kirja" in finnish.. how would you say "my book" ?


If you're thinking of kirjani, youre right. If you want to make sure that it's MY book, you can say "minun kirjani." >nyway, you can't say it as "minun kirja". It's wrong. You can say "minun kirjani" or just "kirjani". Never use "minun, sinun etc." without the possessive suffix.
ALSO note that the word with possessive suffix is also in plular.
kissani = my cat, my cats
hänen koiransa = his dog, his dogs

Let's go on with sentences.

auto = car
book = kirja
talo = house
linna = castle
aasi = donkey
kissa = cat
tyhmä = stupid
kaunis = beautiful
ruma = ugly
upea = great, gorgeous
iso = big
pieni = small
on=is, ovat=are
ei=no
yhtä adjective kuin = as ... as

a) make simple sentences using substantives and adjectives, cases and generally everything you've learnt!

b)
-divide case endings, plulars etc (kissasiko -> kissa/si/ko etc)
-translate into english (if you can)

kissani on suuri ja kissasi on pieni, mutta hänen kissansa on ruma. Se ruma kissa on suuressa talossa. Aasinne on kaunis, muttei yhtä upea kuin kissamme!


kaunis kissa = beautiful cat
kissa on kaunis = cat is beautiful

You can see that the word order is exactly as in english so no problems with it!

Some useful conjunctions:
ja - and
mutta - but
vain - only
jos - if
kun - when
koska - because

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Postby Alcadras » 2005-10-04, 16:18

a)näin kirjanista
menen tämä pienissa taloonissa (to my small houses) :roll:
ei , minun kissani on thymä mutta sinun kissasi on kaunis
asun tämä isot talossa.. (how do i make "talo" plural :D )

b)
kirjanissa /kirja-ni-ssa
taloonisssa (talo-on-issa)
kissasista (kissa-si-sta) (from your cats)
etc.

translation

my cat is big and your cat is small , but his/her cat is ugly.ugly cat is in the big house.my donkey is beatiful as gorgeus as their cat :D

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Postby Jonne » 2005-10-04, 16:35

a)näin kirjanista kirjoistani
menen tämä pienissa taloonissa (to my small houses) :roll: i got to my small house - mene pieniin taloihini
ei , minun kissani on thymä mutta sinun kissasi on kaunis
asun tämä isot talossa.. (how do i make "talo" plural :D ) asun näissä isoissa taloissatalo plural is talot in nominative.

b) I wanted you to do this to the text below ;) Try now. And remeber, the case ending comes before the possessive suffix

translation

my cat is big and your cat is small , but his/her cat is ugly.ugly cat is in the big house.my donkey is beatiful as gorgeus as their cat :D but not as gorgeous as. Muttei=mutta ei=but not
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Postby Alcadras » 2005-10-04, 16:46

Jonne wrote:a)näin kirjanista kirjoistani
menen tämä pienissa taloonissa (to my small houses) :roll: i got to my small house - mene pieniin taloihini
ei , minun kissani on thymä mutta sinun kissasi on kaunis
asun tämä isot talossa.. (how do i make "talo" plural :D ) asun näiss' isoissa taloissatalo plural is talot in nominative.

b) I wanted you to do this to the text below ;) Try now. And remeber, the case ending comes before the possessive suffix

translation

my cat is big and your cat is small , but his/her cat is ugly.ugly cat is in the big house.my donkey is beatiful as gorgeus as their cat :D but not as gorgeous as. Muttei=mutta ei=but not

in "a" , i mean "from my house" , not "from my houses".
and then , i mean " i live in big houses" so what does näiss mean ?

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Postby Jonne » 2005-10-04, 16:52

Alcadras wrote:
Jonne wrote:a)näin kirjanista kirjoistani
menen tämä pienissa taloonissa (to my small houses) :roll: i got to my small house - mene pieniin taloihini
ei , minun kissani on thymä mutta sinun kissasi on kaunis
asun tämä isot talossa.. (how do i make "talo" plural :D ) asun näiss' isoissa taloissatalo plural is talot in nominative.

b) I wanted you to do this to the text below ;) Try now. And remeber, the case ending comes before the possessive suffix

translation

my cat is big and your cat is small , but his/her cat is ugly.ugly cat is in the big house.my donkey is beatiful as gorgeus as their cat :D but not as gorgeous as. Muttei=mutta ei=but not

in "a" , i mean "from my house" , not "from my houses".
and then , i mean " i live in big houses" so what does näiss mean ?


from my house = talo/sta/ni

I live in big houses = Asu/n iso/i/ssa talo/i/ssa.

nämä = these
näissä = in these (inessive of nämä)

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Postby Alcadras » 2005-10-04, 16:54

argh i forgot that the case ending comes before the possessive suffix :o

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Postby patrick » 2005-10-06, 17:46

*I don't know what's this in English*

I believe it's congruence. :D


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