Naurava kulkuri wrote:I just came across Learn Finnish pronunciation in less than 10 minutes. Not bad, I think.
maeng wrote:but at least some of the explanations are clearly erroneous.
? Okay, thought mistakes happen, but if you're making a Youtube video for learners, think things through 
.Naurava kulkuri wrote:Hmm, yes, "laudeliina"... I claim my pronunciation has only one 'l' in there!
). Finnish nouns ending in -e are generally affected by end gemination, i.e. the following consonant is geminated. There are other words affected by this as well, like verbs in infinitive (antaa, syödä) and adverbs with -sti (huonosti, kolmasti). Newly borrowed nouns ending in -e seem to be exempt, however, like 'google' ("guugle"), and for many people it has also diappeared from the word 'kolme'.Sometimes I've been thinking this. I've lived my whole life in Tavastia, but my home dialect is Karelian. I'm aware I speak somewhat differently not only because of the words and idioms themselves, but because of the note of my speech. It's not distintively Karelian ("singing"), but it doesn't sound Tavastian (I think more "monotonic") either.Varislintu wrote:Naurava kulkuri wrote:Hmm, yes, "laudeliina"... I claim my pronunciation has only one 'l' in there!
But that's technically "wrong" too (but since you're native, you can't be wrong-wrong
(This for possible learners reading this topic, not particularly aimed at you, Naurava kulkuri.)
Naurava kulkuri wrote:Sometimes I've been thinking this. I've lived my whole life in Tavastia, but my home dialect is Karelian. I'm aware I speak somewhat differently not only because of the words and idioms themselves, but because of the note of my speech. It's not distintively Karelian ("singing"), but it doesn't sound Tavastian (I think more "monotonic") either.
Perhaps on issue here is that according to my observation, the pace of speech of those from Karelia is (much) faster and when veering closer to the standard language, one tend to drop letters like the 'l' in laude(l)liina. Though it could be that because of my very limited sample domain this doesn't hold water.
My wife says I have it there, though not that audible since it's so short. If it weren't there, it would sound like two separate words or a set phrase, or an Italian speaking Finnish, but it does not.Varislintu wrote:I know shamefully little about Finnish (or Karelian) dialects, or what developed from what, but since Estonian for example has not got the end gemination I guess it must be quite possible that some Finnish dialects don't either.
I guess I have to rely on her judgement, she's the one working with languages and stuff (and she's studied vocology etc.). 
Varislintu wrote:I know shamefully little about Finnish (or Karelian) dialects, or what developed from what, but since Estonian for example has not got the end gemination I guess it must be quite possible that some Finnish dialects don't either.
Also one of the most distinct traits. For example, they really do pronounce hernekeitto as hernekeitto, not hernekkeitto 
Miumau wrote:Yeah, the South-Western Finnish dialects (lounaismurteet) - for example the ones spoken in Turku
? Wow, shows that I've mixed pretty exclusively with Swedish speakers during the months I've lived in Turku so far, as I hadn't realised that 
. Interesting !Saim wrote:Does anyone know of any videos or dialogues in Finnish with transcription + translation? I'm trying to go through my textbooks but I'm finding it too boring, but I'm not quite ready for native media either. Really anything bilingual + audio that isn't old folk stories...