Genitive Plural

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Genitive Plural

Postby Babelfish » 2005-08-24, 18:14

(I don't know enough Russian for this so excuse me for staying in English this time :roll: )

Is there anywhere in the Internet a full list of the rules of forming the Genitive Plural?
I think I've found most of them (after browing at least three sites :x) but in the end, they usually just say "the rules are complex..." and go on to describe [most of] the common cases. I'm still not sure when to insert vowels at all, and there are some other confusing cases...

Anyone? :?

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Postby Cisza » 2005-08-25, 12:31

I'm afraid it's impossible to give the full list of rules - there are too many exclusions (that's why they say that "rules are complex" - it's impossible to list all the exclusions). So the only advise I can give you is to remember forms of specific words, not general rules. Usually you can find these forms in good (big) dictionaries.
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Postby Babelfish » 2005-08-25, 15:34

OK, thanks. I actually learn rules quicker than specific forms... I guess some of the confusing forms I've encountered were indeed irregular. I did find a nice site on the Internet which displays all the forms of a noun/verb :) So I can just put in there every word which seems problematic.

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Postby jumichlo » 2005-09-04, 22:34

Russian Genitiv...
:anger: Aaarrgh :silly: :morning:

I'll never make it...

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Postby Babelfish » 2005-09-05, 8:20

Well, at least I'm not the only one who has problems with the Russian Genitive Plural :P I even saw it mentioned in the main Unilang forum, in the thread discussing "the most difficult noun system". Respect to Russian! r-e-s-t-e-c-p Respect!

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Postby Axystos » 2005-09-05, 8:33

Babelfish wrote:Respect to Russian! <b>r-e-s-t-e-c-p </b>Respect!

You'll never be like Aretha Franklin, spelling like that. :P ;)
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Postby Babelfish » 2005-09-30, 13:12

Well, here's a thought - I'll start a page in the UniLang Wiki and list in it all the rules I know. Some I've encountered in different sites on the Internet, others I've deduced by myself using that Russian morphology site. Anybody's welcome to put in corrections or additions of course...
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Re: Genitive Plural

Postby Babelfish » 2015-09-28, 20:36

... I can hardly believe it's been ten years! :shock: (well, minus two days)
I remember I did create such a page in the UniLang Wiki, but muuuuuch later it became inaccessible. I don't find my posts related to it, though.
Anyway - I've gone and created a new page about it :mrgreen: It's still not completely finished - I want to mark stress somehow - but you're welcome to take a look and comment:

http://babelfish.50webs.com/languages/Russian%20Genitive%20Plural.html

As mentioned above, the rules are indeed complex and exceptions abound. Hardly something to memorize explicitly... but after dealing enough with Russian, I think they might stick, and provide a good guess for almost all cases. So I do hope I got them correctly :blush:

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Re: Genitive Plural

Postby Antea » 2015-12-19, 11:00

Thank you. I m studying genitive in my Russian class, and it is very difficult and complex :silly:

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Re: Genitive Plural

Postby Mutusen » 2015-12-23, 14:57

Interesting link. There is a case you didn't mention: words that simply don't have a genitive plural form, like мечта. I guess мечт and мечет both sound wrong to Russian speakers, and as a result there is no correct form.
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Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-26, 7:48

Babelfish wrote:Well, at least I'm not the only one who has problems with the Russian Genitive Plural :P

I thought everyone had problems with the Russian genitive plural.

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Re: Genitive Plural

Postby Koko » 2017-02-26, 8:43

That's honestly so helpful o.o

Thanks for responding to this thread and bringing my attention to it vijay :P I didn't even know HOW irregular genitive plurals in Russian were, but hah this'll help for when im analyzing Russian lyrics.


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