Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

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Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

Postby sergiolopes » 2012-02-04, 0:53

Hey!

The University of Utrecht has decided to terminate its BA program in Portuguese Studies, the only one in the country. Their (false) claim is that it's not financially sustainable anymore. Even if this were true, universities are the guardians of knowledge and culture, and shouldn't have money and profit as their prime directives.

Let's say NO!
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Re: Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

Postby hlysnan » 2012-02-04, 1:45

Do you know how many students are studying Portuguese at Utrecht? Because if there's only like four students actually completing their studies like Indonesian at my university, then I think it would be unreasonable to ask for it to be continued, and it could be taught at technical colleges instead.

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Postby Reinder » 2012-02-04, 8:28

I didn't even know you could study Portuguese in Utrecht, that's pretty special. Is it the only university in the Netherlands that offers this study?
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Postby hlysnan » 2012-02-04, 9:10

Reinder wrote:I didn't even know you could study Portuguese in Utrecht, that's pretty special. Is it the only university in the Netherlands that offers this study?

According to the articles I read, it is.

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Postby sergiolopes » 2012-02-07, 16:04

hlysnan wrote:Do you know how many students are studying Portuguese at Utrecht? Because if there's only like four students actually completing their studies

Don't know the exact number, but it's a larger number than that. Regardless, there are other solutions, other ways of minimizing costs without closing down the whole department.
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Re: Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

Postby Rivaldo » 2012-02-15, 3:46

In my university there is a department of Sanskrit and other of Armenian.
Very few people seriously study sanskrit or armenian, in order to use their amount of complex bilingual books.
Still, there's a library for it, and 3 or 4 competent teachers about it. And I don't think that is little.
I feel that if there weren't that few people and that library, a lot of people would be losing much.

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Re: Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

Postby Michael » 2012-02-23, 18:29

Eu firmei a petição. 8-)
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Re: Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

Postby Xiaobo » 2012-02-23, 18:35

Regardless, there are other solutions, other ways of minimizing costs without closing down the whole department.
Such as...?

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Re: Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

Postby Luís » 2012-02-23, 18:36

Também acabei de assinar... :)
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Re: Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

Postby Axystos » 2012-02-26, 9:50

E naturalmente fácil assinar uma petição, mas toma em consideração isto também:

dit jaar waren het er minder dan vijf

:arrow: neste ano foram menos do que cinco (estudantes que começaram com o português)

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Re: Univ. of Utrech closing its Portuguese BA. Let's say NO!

Postby Rivaldo » 2012-03-02, 18:51

Justificar o fechamento do curso pela pouca procura é colocar o carro na frente dos bois.

A procura do curso por alunos tem a ver com a valorização que a sociedade dá para este conhecimento, tanto em sentindo financeiro, quanto em outros: o glamour que a posse deste conhecimento trás; sua associação em termos de sabedoria ou religiosidade, etc.

Porém, a escolha de uma universidade se dedicar a determinado estudo não tem que ter como ponto de partida a valorização da sociedade, muitas vezes o inverso: a universidade é onde se encontram pessoas estranhas o bastante para poder dar o devido valor a coisas raras e estranhas, que a sociedade em geral muitas vezes ignora por completo.

De modo que o problema da pouca procura pelo curso mostra não um motivo para fechar o curso, mas uma incapacidade da universidade de ter influência o bastante para valorizar aquilo que estuda - e ter este valor aceito pela sociedade.

Uma Universidade de ciências humanas fechar um curso tendo como motivo a pouca procura por parte dos alunos, é, no mínimo, ridículo, mostra uma total falta de autonomia e de desapreço com os seus próprios professores, como se o que eles avidamente estudam e escrevem nenhum valor tem, simplesmente porque ninguém quer ler.


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