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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Babelfish » 2014-10-03, 15:05

IpseDixit wrote:
מחר אני צריך ללכת לסניף הדואר, אני דוחה את זה יותר מדי זמן


The sentence above may be terribly wrong because I have no idea how to express the present perfect continuous in Hebrew.

המשפט לעיל עלול להיות שגוי לגמרי כי אין לי מושג איך להביע עתיד מושלם מתמשך בעברית.

Mostly, you just use the present (like I did). It's easy when there are so few tenses 8-)

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Mikey93 » 2014-10-04, 11:57

Babelfish wrote:
משפט לעיל עלול להיות שגוי לגמרי כי אין לי מושג איך להביע עתיד מושלם מתמשך בעברית.
May I ask why did you translate "present perfect" as "עתיד מושלם" and not "הווה מושלם"?
Mostly, you just use the present (like I did). It's easy when there are so few tenses 8-)


בד"כ, אתה משתמש בהווה (כמוני). זה פשוט כשיש כל כך מעט זמנים.

I keep a reasonable amount of money in my current account - just enough to keep it in credit - but I put most in a deposit account where I get more interest.
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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Babelfish » 2014-10-10, 14:43

אני מחזיק כמות סבירה של כסף בחשבון הנוכחי שלי - מספיק כדי לשמור אותו ביתרת זכות - אבל אני שם את הרוב בחשבון חסכון שבו אני מקבל ריבית גבוהה יותר.

Mikey93 wrote:May I ask why did you translate "present perfect" as "עתיד מושלם" and not "הווה מושלם"?
Yes you may. I made a blunder :shock:

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-10-10, 15:18

Babelfish wrote:Our sun, just like very other star, is essentially a gigantic thermonuclear bonfire.


I suppose very is actually every...

השמש שלנו, בדיוק כמו הכל הכוכבים האחרים, במהות הוא מדורה ענקית תרמוגרעינית.


Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the Sun to Earth, unless there are traffic jams.

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Babelfish » 2014-10-16, 13:59

IpseDixit wrote:
השמש שלנו, בדיוק כמו הכל הכוכבים האחרים, במהות הוא מדורה ענקית תרמוגרעינית. (היא בעצם מדורה תרמוגרעינית ענקית)

:goodjob: Except for the redundant -ה in הכל, no actual mistake! What I wrote in blue is just style issues - the Sun is usually referred to as feminine (but it can be masculine), בעצם is a more common translation for "essentially", and the adjective order better reproduces the emphasis in English.
לאור לוקח שמונה דקות להגיע מהשמש לכדור הארץ, אלא אם יש פקקי תנועה.

Chinese writing uses thousands of characters, but the vast majority of them are in fact compounds of other characters, so the system isn't so insane after all.

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Saim » 2014-10-16, 20:51

הכתב סיני משתמש באלפי תווים, אבל רובם המכריע שלהם למעשה מחוברים מתווים אחרים, אז המערכת לא מואד משוגה במציות.

It took me ages to figure out how to translate "after all" in Hebrew, and I'm still not sure if I've done it right.

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Mikey93 » 2014-10-17, 14:49

Saim wrote:It took me ages to figure out how to translate "after all" in Hebrew, and I'm still not sure if I've done it right.

לקח לי נצח עד שקלטתי איך לתרגם "after all*" לעברית, ואני עוד לא בטוח שזה נכון ככה.

*In the given context I myself would say בסוף סוף

He wasn’t very friendly and he walked about as if he was „Mr-know-it-all“, so he strikes me as rather conceited.
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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Babelfish » 2014-10-24, 17:03

Saim wrote:
הכתב הסיני משתמש באלפי תווים, אבל רובם המכריע שלהם (או: הרוב המכריע שלהם) למעשה מחוברים (עדיף: מורכבים) מתווים אחרים, אז המערכת לא כל-כך משוגעת אחרי הכל.

Funny, the end of this sentence actually translates literally into Hebrew quite well :)
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Saim wrote:It took me ages to figure out how to translate "after all" in Hebrew, and I'm still not sure if I've done it right.

לקח לי נצח עד שקלטתי איך לתרגם "after all*" לעברית, ואני עוד לא בטוח שזה נכון ככה.

*In the given context I myself would say בסוף סוף

He wasn’t very friendly and he walked about as if he was „Mr-know-it-all“, so he strikes me as rather conceited.
הוא לא היה ממש ידידותי והוא הסתובב כאילו הוא "מר יודע-הכל", אז הוא נראה לי די רברבן.

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Mikey93 » 2014-10-26, 10:19

יש לי עכשיו יתוש למעלה על הקיר. אני מתכוון לקטול אותו בקרוב לפני שהוא עוקץ אותי.

That was disgustingly sweet and romantic, kind of dream come true story. Pure sentimentality.
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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-10-29, 10:42

זה היית מגעיל חמוד ורומנטי, מעין חלום שהופך להיות אמתי. רגשנות טהורה.


Does that mean you fucked her?

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Mikey93 » 2014-10-31, 20:24

האם זה אומר ששִכַבְתָּ איֹתָּהּ?

I've just bought a new laptop, and frankly it's more trouble than it's worth.
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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Babelfish » 2014-11-07, 16:30

בדיוק קניתי לפטופ חדש, ולמען האמת הוא עושה יותר צרות משהוא שווה.

If the bus doesn't arrive in five minutes, we'll miss our train and will have to wait an hour for the next one!

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Mikey93 » 2014-11-08, 21:24

אִם האוֹטוֹבּוּס לֹא יַגִיעַ בְּעוֹד חָמֵשׂ דַּקּוֹת, נְפַסְפֵס אֶת הָרַכֶּבֶת שְלָּנוּ וְנִצְטָרֵךְ לְחַכּוֹת שָׁעָה לַבָּאָה.

Don’t get me wrong, I really don’t mind you getting so lachrymose at every mention of her name, but your illusory conceptions of taking up with her again, that’s what annoys me most about it.
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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Babelfish » 2014-11-15, 14:05

אל תבין אותי לא נכון, ממש לא אכפת לי שאתה דומע כל-כך בכל פעם שמזכירים את השם שלה, אבל האשליה שלך לגבי לחזור להיות איתה, זה מה שהכי מעצבן אותי בעניין.

Your translation is 100% correct except that I can't be sure about the vowel marks... (well it should be vocalized שֶלָּנוּ but it's probably a typo). It would be better using תוך rather than בעוד, though, since the latter refers to an exact time while the former indicates time within, i.e. the bus can arrive earlier :)

Darn, I really don't have the energy to think up yet another sentence for translation, after doing it in the "Hebrew Translation Game for Beginners" thread.

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Mikey93 » 2014-11-18, 20:12

Babelfish wrote:Your translation is 100% correct except that I can't be sure about the vowel marks... (well it should be vocalized שֶלָּנוּ but it's probably a typo). It would be better using תוך rather than בעוד, though, since the latter refers to an exact time while the former indicates time within, i.e. the bus can arrive earlier :)

Good to know! Thanks. :) Regarding the vocalization, I suppose it was a typo as well as "sin" instead of "shin" in the word חמש. Anyway, I would be really grateful, if you could just glance at the vowels when chekcing the translation. From now on, I will write Hebrew text only with vowel signs, even though it showed to be pretty arduous. Only that I won't mark dagesh forte anymore, unless it indicates explosive pronounciation of ב', פ', כ'

Darn, I really don't have the energy to think up yet another sentence for translation, after doing it in the "Hebrew Translation Game for Beginners" thread.

לַעֲזָאזֵל, מַמָשׁ אֵין לִי כּוֹחַ לְהַמְצִיא עוֹד מִשְׁפָּט אֶחָד לְתַרְגוּם, לְאַחַר שְׁעָשִׂיתִי כָּךְ בַּשִׁרְשׁוּר "Hebrew Translation Game for Beginners".

I am having a hard time with this Arabic course. New words seem to go in one ear and out the other. And when I want to say something, my mind goes a complete blank.
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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Babelfish » 2014-11-21, 15:53

קשה לי עם קורס הערבית הזה. נדמה שמלים חדשות נכנסות באוזן אחת ויוצאות מהשנייה. וכשאני רוצה להגיד משהו, המוח שלי נעשה ריק לחלוטין.

I would have omitted the "אחד" in your translation, but it's not actually wrong. Otherwise the translation is 100% :waytogo:

So, I started studying some Old English. Many Modern English words do originate from it (although about 70% actually come from Latin via French), and I love word etymologies, so I guess this was unavoidable :lol:

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Mikey93 » 2014-11-27, 20:09

Quite a task this one. :D By the way, I really don't know, if there is a corresponding verb for "originate" in Hebrew.

וּבְכֵן, הִתְחַלְתִי לִלְמוֹד קְצָת אַנְגְלִית עַתִיקָה.מְקוֹרָן שֶׁל הַרְבֵּה מִילִים בְּאַנְגְלִית מוֹדֶרְנִית בָּהּ (לַמְרוֹת שֶׁבְּעֵרֶךְ 70% מֵהֶן בְּעֶצֶם בָּאִים מִלָטִינִית דֶרֶךְ צָרְפָתִית), וַאֲנִי אוֹהֵב אֵטִימוֹלוֹגְיָה שֶׁל מִילִים, אָז אֲנִי מְשַׁעֵר שֶׁזֶה הָיָה בִּלְתִי נִמְנָע.


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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Babelfish » 2014-11-28, 17:01

Mikey93 wrote:Quite a task this one. :D By the way, I really don't know, if there is a corresponding verb for "originate" in Hebrew.

Hey, your sentences are quite long, too :P And I don't know a Hebrew verb either for "originate", so you paraphrased it using the noun, good work!
The clause "מקורן של הרבה מילים באנגלית מודרנית בה" is correct, just not very clear, took me a couple of moments to figure it out. I guess I would have replaced בה with בשפה הזו (this language) or even repeat באנגלית עתיקה.

Now to my translation:
כל הכבוד. לא על המבחן. רוב האנשים יוצאים משנת-הקפאה* בתת-תזונה נוראית. אני רוצה לברך אותך על כך שנגד כל הסיכויים הצלחת להעלות כמה קילוגרמים.
* My own phrasing, I don't know an official or even very common term for this. Thanks for explaining "suspension", I wouldn't have gotten it...

I forgot to mention that I also like complex grammars with noun declensions, as well as new scripts, and Old English was originally written with runes, so there.

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby raaly123 » 2014-12-02, 16:55

I forgot to mention that I also like complex grammars with noun declensions, as well as new scripts, and Old English was originally written with runes, so there.

שכחתי להזכיר שגם אני אוהב דקדוק מורכב עם הטיית שם העצם, בדיוק כמו כתבי יד חדשים, והאנגלית העתיקה נכתבה עם רונות אז הנה.

I'm new to this site and to be honest, I am quite surprised by the fact that there actually are a lot of people who want to learn it, which makes me happy because I love Hebrew a lot.

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Re: Hebrew Translation Game

Postby Mikey93 » 2014-12-03, 11:35

Welcome! Nice to see a new member here. :P
I'm new to this site and to be honest, I am quite surprised by the fact that there actually are a lot of people who want to learn it, which makes me happy because I love Hebrew a lot.

אֲנִי חֲדָשָׁה פֹּה וּכְדֵי לוֹמַר אֶת הַאֶמֶת, אֲנִי דַי מוּפְתַעַת לִרְאוֹת שֶיֵש בְּעֶצֶם הַרְבֵּה אֲנָשִים שֶרוֹצִים לִלְמוֹד עִבְרִית, וְזֶה מְשַׂמֵחַ אוֹתִי מִפְּנֵי שֶגַם אֲנִי חוֹבֶבֶת עִבְרִית.

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