Questions on Icelandic

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Questions on Icelandic

Postby Zeikan » 2005-04-25, 16:10

1. Could someone please explain the Middle Voice?
2. Is there a dictionary somewhere out there online that marks strong/weak nouns, gender, and maybe even irregularities?

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Postby Stan » 2005-04-26, 14:55

I have some questions too:

Do all Icelandic people sound like Bjork?:twisted:
Is Icelandic easy?
what's the difference between þ and ð?

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Postby Alcadras » 2005-04-26, 17:20

icelandic is the hardest scandinavic-german language

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Postby JackFrost » 2005-04-26, 18:21

1. Could someone please explain the Middle Voice?
2. Is there a dictionary somewhere out there online that marks strong/weak nouns, gender, and maybe even irregularities?

1) The middle voice is a verb form in Icelandic that is easily distinguished by its -st endings. In principle, the middle voice is formed by adding -st to the infinitive of conjugated verb formsm, as appropriate, with the following changes.

-Second and third endings -(u)r, -ð, and -rð are deleted.
-Dentals (ð, d, t) are deleted before middle voice -st where deleted also in pronunciation.

Examples
fá - fást = to get, to obtain.

fæ - fæst
færð - fæst
fær - fæst
fáum - fáumst
fáið - fáist
fá - fást

The middle voice is used to express the followingÆ

-Reflexivity
The middle voice can replace a reflexive pronoun, as in...

Barnið meiður sig --- Barnið meiðist
The child hurts itself.

Note, however, that not all reflexive constructions can be replaced by a middle voice.

-Reciprocity
The middle voice can add the meaning of "each other" to a main verb.

Kjartan talar við Sif og Sif talar við Kjartan --- Kjartan og Sif talast við
Kjartan and Sif talk to each other.

Við sjáumst!
We'll see each other again!

-Separate meaning or only existing or only exisiting form of the verb. The middle voice can give a verb a different meaning...

koma vs. komast --- to come vs. to get there
taka vs. takast --- to take vs. to work, to succeed
gera vs. gerast --- to do vs. to happen

2) Unfortunely I do not know a dictionary that will do such thin. Sorry!
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Postby JackFrost » 2005-04-26, 18:24

Stancel wrote:Do all Icelandic people sound like Bjork?
Is Icelandic easy?
what's the difference between þ and ð?

1) No. :roll: :P

If you want to hear Icelandic...go to... http://www.visir.is/
1) Go to "Fara á Vef TíVí vefinn"
2) Voilà...you can watch news, shows, and clips in Icelandic.

2) ð is voiced, like th in birth. þ is unvoiced, like th in thin.
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Postby JackFrost » 2005-04-26, 18:25

Alcadras wrote:icelandic is the hardest scandinavic-german language

Germanic language...

Yes, the hardest modern Germanic language. ;)
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Postby Stan » 2005-04-26, 19:24

JackFrost wrote:
Alcadras wrote:icelandic is the hardest scandinavic-german language

Germanic language...

Yes, the hardest modern Germanic language. ;)


What would be the easiest?

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Re: Questions on Icelandic

Postby Psi-Lord » 2005-04-26, 21:42

Zeikan wrote:2. Is there a dictionary somewhere out there online that marks strong/weak nouns, gender, and maybe even irregularities?

Have a look at http://www.ordabok.is/english.asp—not complete, but it's probably the best there is online. It's actually a paid dictionary, but you can have a 15-day trial. Here are some lines taken from it:

rain

NOUN
rigning kv.; regn h.;
buckets of rain: hellirigning kv.;
pour buckets of rain: hellirigna;
the rain beats down: það hellirignir;
the rain pours down: það hellirignir;
rains (ft.): regntími k.

VERB
rigna; láta rigna yfir; streyma;
it's raining: það er rigning;
rain cats and dogs: rigna eins og hellt sé úr fötu, hellirigna

Inflections:

NOUN
regn - regn - regni - regns
regnið - regnið - regninu - regnsins
regn - regn - regnum - regna
regnin - regnin - regnunum - regnanna

VERB
rigna - rigndi - rignt
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Postby JackFrost » 2005-04-26, 22:36

Stancel wrote:
JackFrost wrote:
Alcadras wrote:icelandic is the hardest scandinavic-german language

Germanic language...

Yes, the hardest modern Germanic language. ;)

What would be the easiest?

Not an easy question to be honest since all Germanic languages are tricky, even those that don't use much or no inflexions. But I did write them down on the English native speaker's point of view.

From the easiest to the hardest...

English - Afrikaans - Dutch - Danish - Norwegian - Swedish - German - Faroese - Icelandic
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