Vegur/Veggur Homophone?

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Vegur/Veggur Homophone?

Postby klaudi » 2010-02-15, 4:45

What is the pronunciation of vegur (way, road) compared with veggur (wall)?
Also, does múr mean the same as veggur?

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Re: Vegur/Veggur Homophone?

Postby csjc » 2010-02-15, 5:20

One g after a vowel = [j], two g's = [k], so no, they aren't homophones.

Múr is much less commonly used, I've only seen it used in the context of the Berlin wall (Berlínarmúrinn).
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Re: Vegur/Veggur Homophone?

Postby Sean of the Dead » 2010-02-15, 5:24

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Re: Vegur/Veggur Homophone?

Postby csjc » 2010-02-15, 6:12

I am fairly sure. That Wikipedia article isn't very complete and I'm just relying on what I've heard in Icelanders' speech.

To be more clear:
Veggur ['veg’:ür]
Vegur ['ve: γur] (forget about the [j] :roll:)

I'll ask an Icelander in the morning to confirm, I can't trust my own memory at this point. :blush:

Confirmed (someone was still awake!), the above transcriptions are correct. :P
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Re: Vegur/Veggur Homophone?

Postby Egein » 2010-02-21, 19:16

here is the correct IPA:

veggur [vɛk:ʏr̥]
vegur [vɛɣʏr̥]
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Re: Vegur/Veggur Homophone?

Postby csjc » 2010-02-21, 20:01

Egein wrote:here is the correct IPA:

veggur [vɛk:ʏr̥]
vegur [vɛɣʏr̥]


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Re: Vegur/Veggur Homophone?

Postby Egein » 2010-02-22, 12:16

You're most welcome.

By the way, there seems to be a slight difference between the -ur of the two. For me, the -ur of veggur resembles a [u] just a little bit.

Just like the -u- in morgunn is a little bit closer to a [u] than full [y]. But I'm not completely sure this isn't just in my head.
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