Why is Danish spelling and pronunciation different?

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Why is Danish spelling and pronunciation different?

Postby Giselberga » 2018-04-10, 9:55

Danish is unique language
Danish spelling and pronunciation is different such as English

Example
Hej
rødgrød med fløde

Why is Danish spelling and pronunciation different?

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Re: Why is Danish spelling and pronunciation different?

Postby Massimiliano B » 2018-04-10, 10:18

Because the pronunciation changes during the centuries, while the writing system does not change. When the writing system is to far from the pronunciation, then there can be a spelling reform - this happened in Sweden, for instance.

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Re: Why is Danish spelling and pronunciation different?

Postby linguoboy » 2018-04-10, 15:37

Massimiliano B wrote:Because the pronunciation changes during the centuries, while the writing system does not change. When the writing system is to far from the pronunciation, then there can be a spelling reform - this happened in Sweden, for instance.

It's not true to say "the writing system does not change". It typically doesn't change as much, but smaller modifications are happening all the time.

But there are more limitations to change on a writing system than on the spoken system. Sounds can shift around a lot, but as long as the distinctions between them stay more-or-less the same, you can keep using the same symbols. That's how English was able to have a massive vowel shift without having to overhaul its orthography.
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Re: Why is Danish spelling and pronunciation different?

Postby Massimiliano B » 2018-04-10, 21:07

linguoboy wrote:
Massimiliano B wrote:Because the pronunciation changes during the centuries, while the writing system does not change. When the writing system is to far from the pronunciation, then there can be a spelling reform - this happened in Sweden, for instance.

It's not true to say "the writing system does not change". It typically doesn't change as much, but smaller modifications are happening all the time.


I've written in summary what you have written

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Re: Why is Danish spelling and pronunciation different?

Postby linguoboy » 2018-04-10, 21:26

Massimiliano B wrote:
linguoboy wrote:
Massimiliano B wrote:Because the pronunciation changes during the centuries, while the writing system does not change. When the writing system is to far from the pronunciation, then there can be a spelling reform - this happened in Sweden, for instance.

It's not true to say "the writing system does not change". It typically doesn't change as much, but smaller modifications are happening all the time.

I've written in summary what you have written

I disagree. Your "summary" makes it sound like writing systems only change as the result of "spelling reforms". These are actually a very recent phenomenon (since the notion of a standardised spelling is--for most languages--a very recent phenomenon). English has notably never been "reformed", but it doesn't follow from that that its spelling has nōƿiht ȝeƿended siþþan þē ealdan daȝas.
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Re: Why is Danish spelling and pronunciation different?

Postby Massimiliano B » 2018-04-10, 22:52

I just gave a short answer...and the subject of my sentence was "writing system". It is not affected by the "smaller modifications": they do not involve the writing system, but only little parts of it. I was talking of the entire writing system. In order to involve the entire writing system, it takes a long time. If you take 200 or 300 years, the writing system does not change, but only little modifications intervene. When the distance of the writing system from the pronunciation is too big, a spelling reform is needed. This is what I meant. Basta così...ho già passato ore e ore a scrivere lunghi messaggi su questo sito... non ne ho più voglia.


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