Help with pronunciation of name

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Help with pronunciation of name

Postby Martinbr » 2009-06-16, 14:03

Hello!

Could someone please tell me how to pronounce the name Thomas Buttenschøn? It's the letter combination "sch" that I haven't come across before, and I don't have a clue of how to pronounce it.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby SImon Gray » 2009-06-16, 15:24

The "sch" combination looks pretty German to me and I see that you're a native speaker, so (and honestly, I mean this in a totally non-derogatory way) wouldn't it be easier for you to tell someone like me how to pronounce it...? :)

But anyway, "sch" like in German or just "sh" for an approximated (and less German-sounding) pronunciation which would probably be more common in Denmark.

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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby ILuvEire » 2009-06-16, 15:55

So Buttenschøn would be similar to "Buttensjøn"?
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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby SImon Gray » 2009-06-16, 18:28

ILuvEire wrote:So Buttenschøn would be similar to "Buttensjøn"?


Yeah. At least, I wouldn't pronounce them differently, but you never know with names; some people with fancy surnames insist on pronouncing them according to foreign orthography.

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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby hekkenfeldt » 2009-06-16, 18:45

In this case, though, it's definitely [Buttensjøn]. He's a pretty well-known musician in Denmark, and I've never heard anyone pronounce it differently.
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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby Martinbr » 2009-06-16, 21:38

Yes, hekkenfeldt, it's the singer Thomas Buttenschøn I meant. Perhaps I'll buy one of his CDs while I'm on holiday in Denmark next month, and I wanted to know what to ask the shop assistant for, that's why I poated my question. Thanks for all your replies!

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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby ILuvEire » 2009-06-16, 22:13

Something else about this, do you Danish speakers say it with [ʃ] or [ɕ]?
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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby SImon Gray » 2009-06-16, 22:20

ILuvEire wrote:Something else about this, do you Danish speakers say it with [ʃ] or [ɕ]?


I have no idea what either of those sound like. Do you have any example words?

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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby Jayan » 2009-06-18, 0:14

ILuvEire wrote:Something else about this, do you Danish speakers say it with [ʃ] or [ɕ]?


From what I've observed (not necessarily correct :? :oops: ), most of the time it's [ʃ], but [ɕ] occurs sometimes. The main time I've noticed [ɕ] is in rapid speech. I'm not sure if that's right, though.

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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby SImon Gray » 2009-06-18, 9:44

Jayan wrote:
ILuvEire wrote:@SImon: du kan lytte til IPA-lydstaverne på denne side (http://web.uvic.ca/ling/resources/ipa/c ... IPAlab.htm).


Ok... I want to say something in between both of those...? The closest would be [ɕ] but definitely not as sharply as that guy pronounces it. What's the slurred version of [ɕ] called? :P

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Re: Help with pronunciation of name

Postby Jayan » 2009-06-18, 13:49

SImon Gray wrote:
Jayan wrote:
ILuvEire wrote:@SImon: du kan lytte til IPA-lydstaverne på denne side (http://web.uvic.ca/ling/resources/ipa/c ... IPAlab.htm).


Ok... I want to say something in between both of those...? The closest would be [ɕ] but definitely not as sharply as that guy pronounces it. What's the slurred version of [ɕ] called? :P


:lol: Well, I'd call it slurred [ɕ], but I'm sure that's wrong :P


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