Unstressed e's and middle v's.
Posted: 2009-01-27, 6:57
The intricacies of Danish pronunciation are always a source of consternation among learners of the language. In my own case, I've never had too much trouble producing the individual sounds themselves; rather, my main difficulties stem from knowing precisely which sounds to use (or even to omit). This difficulty is only exacerbated by the fact that there seems to be some lack of consensus on this point even among native speakers themselves.
Unstressed e's, especially at the end of a word, are a prime example. Every piece of learning material I've come across seems to insist that these are always pronounced, yet I've noticed a tendency among many speakers to drop them, especially in rapid speech. However, the degree to which this is done seems to vary wildly--some speakers almost always drop them, some only occasionally (or in certain words) and others (including newscasters, from whom the majority of my Danish audio input comes) almost never--except, on occasion, when they do (the word "ikke" seems to be an especially common victim). And as far as I can tell almost nobody seems to pronounce the terminal e's when they immediately follow another vowel (though again, no learning materials ever seems to make any mention of this, as though the phenomenon never existed in the first place).
Another problem of mine concerns v's in the middle of words. I know that sometimes this is pronounced as a normal v, other times as a sort of short, unstressed u-sound, but in certain words (tyve, gave, have, for example) it seems to take either form, depending upon the individual speaker. What's more, it would seem that the pronunciation can even vary for the same speaker between individual forms of the same word--I recently heard an audio clip in which the speaker would always pronounce the simple form of "prøve" with a distinct v, yet "prøven" and "prøver" always took the unstressed form.
This leaves me with two problems. Firstly, which of these standards should I adhere to? As I non-native speaker, I think I'd generally want to aim for a slightly clearer than average pronunciation (erring on the side of enunciation, so to speak), but at the same time I don't want my speech to sound too terribly stilted or unnatural. Secondly, are there any rules or even general guidelines for determining when an unstressed e should be dropped or which form the letter v should take in the middle of a word? Anyone care to shed a bit of light on these phenomena?
Unstressed e's, especially at the end of a word, are a prime example. Every piece of learning material I've come across seems to insist that these are always pronounced, yet I've noticed a tendency among many speakers to drop them, especially in rapid speech. However, the degree to which this is done seems to vary wildly--some speakers almost always drop them, some only occasionally (or in certain words) and others (including newscasters, from whom the majority of my Danish audio input comes) almost never--except, on occasion, when they do (the word "ikke" seems to be an especially common victim). And as far as I can tell almost nobody seems to pronounce the terminal e's when they immediately follow another vowel (though again, no learning materials ever seems to make any mention of this, as though the phenomenon never existed in the first place).
Another problem of mine concerns v's in the middle of words. I know that sometimes this is pronounced as a normal v, other times as a sort of short, unstressed u-sound, but in certain words (tyve, gave, have, for example) it seems to take either form, depending upon the individual speaker. What's more, it would seem that the pronunciation can even vary for the same speaker between individual forms of the same word--I recently heard an audio clip in which the speaker would always pronounce the simple form of "prøve" with a distinct v, yet "prøven" and "prøver" always took the unstressed form.
This leaves me with two problems. Firstly, which of these standards should I adhere to? As I non-native speaker, I think I'd generally want to aim for a slightly clearer than average pronunciation (erring on the side of enunciation, so to speak), but at the same time I don't want my speech to sound too terribly stilted or unnatural. Secondly, are there any rules or even general guidelines for determining when an unstressed e should be dropped or which form the letter v should take in the middle of a word? Anyone care to shed a bit of light on these phenomena?