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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-02, 19:00

hmm, mak had said that there were irregulity with some verbs. they're both the same with past and present tense, for example runāt.
by the way, how can i say "i see trees"?

Es redzu koki?
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Postby mak » 2006-10-02, 19:15

Well I'd say these verbs are more regular than others, because you just need to remember the infinitive and the present (and the past will be the same). They are called Conjugation II verbs and most imported verbs go in this conjugation (importēt, eksportēt, for example). But don't worry about conjugations, you don't need to know them.

Es redzu kokus.
Es redzēju kokus.

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-02, 19:21

ah okay, tā ir Akuzatīvs ... :roll:

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-03, 11:23

:zzz: Es esmu noguris, bet šodienair ir garlaicīgs diena. Es iepērku grāmatu, grāmatai ir tikai septiņdesmit septin lappuses. :lol:

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Postby mak » 2006-10-03, 14:37

Alcadras wrote::zzz: Es esmu noguris, bet šodiena ir garlaicīga diena. Es iepērku grāmatu, grāmatai ir tikai septiņdesmit septiņas lappuses. :lol:

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Using bet does not make sense. un would be more appropriate.

Šodiena ir garlaicīga diena also is correct, but šodiena ir garlaicīga sounds better and you don't need to say diena twice.

pirkt, nopirkt - to buy, so es nopirku grāmatu - I bought a book.

Very good I must say :y:

Man nepatīk minēt :roll:

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-03, 17:53

mak wrote:
Man nepatīk minēt :roll:

:nono: :nono:

wow, very few mistakes. :D When we say , "it has" we just put -i at the end of the word, don't we? and i wasn't sure about lappuses but it's true. :D

@kripata

Would you do me a favour again? :notme:
I want a few translation if you don't mind. :D

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Postby kripata » 2006-10-03, 19:40

Alcadras wrote:@kripata

Would you do me a favour again? :notme:
I want a few translation if you don't mind. :D

Sure, I don't mind :)

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-03, 19:48

Could you record these texts? :)
I want to be sure whether my accent is correct or not.
Btw, Vai tev patīk atminēt?

"Es esmu noguris, bet šodiena ir garlaicīga diena. Es iepērku grāmatu, grāmatai ir tikai septiņdesmit septiņas lappuses. Laughing

aiziet!"


"Vai skolotāja jautās arī rīt? Jā, viņa jautās. Kam viņa jautās? Viņa jautās zēnam un meitenei. Ko skolotāja jautās zēnam? Varbūt viņa jautās: "Vai tu esi skolniece?" Ko zēns atbildēs? Tad zēns viņai sacīs: "Nē, es neesmu skolniece, bet skolnieks." Meitene skolotājai sacīs: "Skolniece esmu es, bet zēns ir skolnieks."
:roll:

edit: I learned that when a male person is addressed, his name (or reference noun) must be in the vocative form. Why?

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-04, 11:54

While this topic is silent, and i hope kripata saw my wishes; i'll write a dialoge prepared by me. :lol:

Klasē

Skolatāja jautā man: "Vai tu deri mājas uzdevumu?" Zens neatbild. Skolatāja viņam brīdini. Zens saka: "Nē, es nederu uzdevumu"
Skolatāja gavilē: "Vai tu gribi iet skolā?" :evil:
Zens: *none of your business* (Es nezinu teikt)
Pēkšņi, zens aizstāvi un vadā pret skolatājas. Viņš dur skolatājai. Tad, policija atbrauc un viņas arestēju viņam.

Laimīgas Beigas!!!! :lol: :lol:

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Postby kripata » 2006-10-04, 15:22

http://rapidshare.de/files/35473121/jaut.wav.html

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Klasē

Skolotāja jautā man (shouldn't here be zēnam?): "Vai tu izpildīji mājas uzdevumu?" Zēns neatbild. Skolotāja viņu brīdina. Zēns saka: "Nē, es neizpildīju uzdevumu"
Skolotāja gavilē (Do you really think that teacher would be cheered up if you hadn't done your homework? If I knew what you want to really say, I could suggest some word) : "Vai tu gribi iet skolā?"
Zēns: kas tev par daļu/nav tava darīšana (Es nezinu to pateikt)
Pēkšņi, zēns aizstāvas un vadā pret skolatājas(what did you mean with this?). Viņš dur skolotājai. Tad policija atbrauc un arestē viņu.

Laimīgas Beigas!!!!

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Postby mak » 2006-10-04, 16:03

lol Did you read this before you made up your story?

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-04, 16:05

What is that? Is it something about killed-teacher? Omg :lol:

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-04, 16:06

kripata wrote:http://rapidshare.de/files/35473121/jaut.wav.html

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Klasē

Skolotāja jautā man (shouldn't here be zēnam?): "Vai tu izpildīji mājas uzdevumu?" Zēns neatbild. Skolotāja viņu brīdina. Zēns saka: "Nē, es neizpildīju uzdevumu"
Skolotāja gavilē (Do you really think that teacher would be cheered up if you hadn't done your homework? If I knew what you want to really say, I could suggest some word) : "Vai tu gribi iet skolā?"
Zēns: kas tev par daļu/nav tava darīšana (Es nezinu to pateikt)
Pēkšņi, zēns aizstāvas un vadā pret skolatājas(what did you mean with this?). Viņš dur skolotājai. Tad policija atbrauc un arestē viņu.

Laimīgas Beigas!!!!

phew, lots of mistakes ...

"Skolotāja gavilē" here, i meant: "teacher shouts" :roll:

"vadā pret skolatājas" - "walks towards teacher"

Liels paldies for the corrections!
What kind of mistakes do I generally make? As a native, what can you say? :lol:

edit: I've just listened your recording. Why didn't you turn down the music? (What's that song btw ,i liked it) :lol: Some parts were too fast that i couldn't follow. :oops:

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Postby kripata » 2006-10-04, 16:21

Teacher shouts- skolotāja kliedz
warlks toward teacher- dodas/iet pie skolotājas
You make macron and folding mistakes.

Yea.. my fault.. I'm actually a fast talker and when I recorded it, it was actually pretty slow. And the music was in other room- Brainstorm- Rudens), I thought you wouldn't hear it. but I can record it one more time, if you want and talk slower.

edit.
Mak showed an article, where some student injured 4 his classmates with knife.

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-04, 16:27

:shock: I swear i didn't read it. :lol:
Thank you, no need to record again, i got it. :wink:
I'll do some exercises about plurals/nominative plurals/dative plurals/locatives ... etc. and will write here. I'll just take "meitene" ,"zens" and "skola".

Vai tu iet skolā jeb universitāte?

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my all times favorite song in eurovision song contest

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ym_g5n4fpRw

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Postby kripata » 2006-10-04, 16:38

Alcadras wrote:Vai tu ej skolā jeb universitātē?

Es mācos vidusskolā- I learn in higschool.

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-04, 18:52

mak, you had said that "the conjugation site shows past tense after pag."

for exaple i write "iet"

there writes:
"eju, ej, iet, pag. gāju, nepārej"
after pag., there are "gāju" and "nepārej" so what do they refer to?

i mean how do i say "i went,you went, they went, we went ..."
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Postby mak » 2006-10-04, 19:14

It's one of the three irregular verbs.

It isn't very irregular in the past though -- the same endings.

infinitive, present, past - english
domāt, domāju, domāju - to think
iet, eju, gāju - to go, to walk

es domāju / gāju
tu domāji / gāji
viņš domāja / gāja
mēs domājām / gājām
jūs domājāt / gājāt

būt, n/a, biju - to be

es biju
tu biji
viņš bija
mēs bijām
jūs bijāt

Es biju students, tagad esmu skolotājs. I was a student, now I'm a teacher.
Man ir suns. I have a dog.
Man bija suns. I had a dog.

nepārej. means intransitive verb

Try to conjugate these verbs in the past
nogalināt, nogalinu, nogalināju - to kill
durt, duru, dūru - to stab

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-04, 19:20

my mind stopped. i can't think anything now.. :dimwit: :dimwit:

Tell me if i can memorize conjugating verbs? Is it possible? :lol:

i just want to know what to add end of the verbs to make past.

Do not get mad! :lol:

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Postby mak » 2006-10-04, 19:33

You can't predict the past form! You have to look it up in the dictionary. You need to memorise all three forms.

I suggest you memorise them like this:

infinitive, present, past - english
nogalināt, nogalinu, nogalināju - to kill

If you want to say that you killed something in the past, use nogalināju.

nogalināju means I killed.
you killed is tu nogalināji

I provided the endings in bold in the previous post.

Does it make sense now?


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