Antea wrote:How are you doing with the dialects you’re learning. Is it going better?
orderlot87 wrote:To add to the conversation a positive take on Modern Standard Arabic - https://pathtoarabic.com/learn-modern-standard-arabic/
To answer your question, you should absolutely study Modern Standard Arabic in my opinion because it’s the foundation of the Arabic language itself and then learn an Arabic dialect if you decide to do so.
You don’t even have to study a dialect since there aren’t really any material or books out there to help you to learn one and besides I don’t even know how you would even begin to teach a dialect!
It will be very painful to my ears to hear someone trying to teach a dialect since most of the words and phrases would be grammatically wrong, misspelt or modified because of the way it’s pronounced differently in a dialect.
It’s true that people do not speak Modern Standard Arabic in Arabic speaking countries, but it’s not enough to justify asking a beginner or learner to study a dialect instead of Modern Standard Arabic, it’s like asking someone to learn slang instead of proper English!
Ultimately your approach to learning and what you want to achieve is the deciding factor that determines your path and for anyone who likes to do things properly and efficiently, you would agree with me that you would want to start learning Modern Standard Arabic and then pick up a dialect later
n8an wrote:orderlot87 wrote:You don’t even have to study a dialect since there aren’t really any material or books out there to help you to learn one and besides I don’t even know how you would even begin to teach a dialect!
That's not a reason not to study dialects. This is due to the Pan-Arab political situation in the region that brainwashes people to think that their mother tongues are not languages, but "slang", with no rules, no grammar and simply an inferior, incorrect and classless way to speak, and hence are not to be written down and not to be used officially.
Meera wrote:Neither was Morrocan Lol
mōdgethanc wrote:I just looked at it and it just says "Egyptian", "Levantine" and "Sudanese". But that doesn't necessarily mean they're classified as different languages because there are also different pages for "Korean" and "North Korean" (wtf?).Meera wrote:Also mōdgethanc, I think the LDI classifies them as diffirent languages, on the GLOSS website they have diffirent sections for each Arabic. For example this is how they word it : "Arabic-MSA, Arabic-Egyptian, Arabic-Levantine, Arabic- Iraqi".
cHr0mChIk wrote:Classical Arabic/MSA isn't a dialect
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