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Postby culúrien » 2006-01-16, 23:54

thanks for your corrections! Thanks for pointing out the unstressed hi/hu and i/u. I knew there was some rule about that!

I'll post some more later tonight :P
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Postby culúrien » 2006-01-17, 3:11

Exercise 7:

We are rich:
Som rics.

The apple is brown and green.
La poma és marrá i verda.

She is a girl.
Ella és una noia.

He is a boy.
Ell és un noie.

You (pl) are very (molt) kind.
Vosaltres sou molt amables.

They are poor.
Ells estan pobres.

I am happy.
Estic contenta.

He is crazy.
Ell està boig.

She is tired.
Ella està cansada.

It is the frog.
Això és la granota.

It is big.
Aixó és gran.

You are tall.
Tu ets alt.

They are nervous.
Ells estan nervíosos.

You (pl) are short.
Vosaltres son baixos.

Exercise 7 (these are numbered oddly but whatever)

jugar:

jugo
jugues
juga
juguem
jugueu
juguen

mirar

miro
mires
mira
mirem
mireu
miren

ballar

ballo
balles
balla
ballem
balleu
ballen

trobar

trobo
trobes
troba
trobem
trobeu
troben

estudiar
estudio
estudies
estudia
estudiem
estudieu
estudien

treballar

treballo
treballes
treballa
treballem
treballeu
treballen

estimar

estimo
estimes
estima
estimem
estimeu
estimen

penjar

penjo
penges
penja
pengem
pengeu
pengen

Exercises 8:

French girls sing a song:
Noies franceses canten un cançó.

We love the food.
Estimem l'aliments.

Maria eats the apple.
Maria menja la poma.

The teacher hangs up the coat.
El professor penja l'abric.

You (pl) love the house.
Estimeu la casa.

She works, he studies.
Ella treballa, ell estudia.

They dance a song.
Ells ballen un cançó.

You eat a sandwhich.
Tu menges (don't know what sandwhich is).

We are poor.
Nosaltres som pobres.

She eats the desert.
Ella menja el desert.

Exercise 9
I can't see the first two pictures so I'll start with the third

Picture 3: Les ocells estimen el cel.

Picture 4: El bebè mira.

Picture 5: Ells son mengen.

Picture 6: can't see it

Picture 7: El cavall juga el joc.

Picture 8: can't see

Picture 9: La noia troba la terra.

Picture 10: Ells estimen aliments.

Exercise 12:

Hola. Em dic Stacey. Tinc disset anys. Estic estudiant català. Ara estic fent deures matemàtiques. I tinc set. I parlo espanyol. El català és fàcil!
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Postby Guillem » 2006-01-17, 14:23

You're right, the weird numbering has been driving me crazy when trying to find the original exercises :? lol

I'll go on with the corrections now :)

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 7:

We are rich:
Som rics.

The apple is brown and green.
La poma és marrona i verda.

She is a girl.
Ella és una noia.

He is a boy.
Ell és un noi[s]e[/s].

You (pl) are very (molt) kind.
Vosaltres sou molt amables.

They are poor.
Ells són pobres.

I am happy.
Estic contenta.

He is crazy.
Ell està boig.

She is tired.
Ella està cansada.

It is the frog.
Això és la granota.

It is big.
Això és gran.

You are tall.
Tu ets alt.

They are nervous.
Ells estan nervíosos.

You (pl) are short.
Vosaltres sou baixos.`

Now the other exercise 7 lol

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 7 (these are numbered oddly but whatever)

jugar:

jugo
jugues
juga
juguem
jugueu
juguen

mirar

miro
mires
mira
mirem
mireu
miren

ballar

ballo
balles
balla
ballem
balleu
ballen

trobar

trobo
trobes
troba
trobem
trobeu
troben

estudiar
estudio
estudies
estudia
estudiem
estudieu
estudien

treballar

treballo
treballes
treballa
treballem
treballeu
treballen

estimar

estimo
estimes
estima
estimem
estimeu
estimen

penjar

penjo
penges
penja
pengem
pengeu
pengen

All correct here ;) Yay!

celebrian23 wrote:Exercises 8:

French girls sing a song:
Les/Unes Noies franceses canten una cançó.

We love the food.
Estimem els aliments (or rather) el menjar.

Maria eats the apple.
La Maria menja la poma.

The teacher hangs up the coat.
El professor penja l'abric.

You (pl) love the house.
Estimeu la casa.

She works, he studies.
Ella treballa, ell estudia.

They dance a song.
Ells ballen una cançó.

You eat a sandwhich.
Tu menges un sandvitx.

We are poor.
Nosaltres som pobres.

She eats the desert.
Ella menja les postres.

The first correction deals with the fact a noun needs an article :) , and talking about articles, remember names of people generally are preceded by an article too :!: For the feminine you have "la" and "na" (the former being much more usual nowadays in Catalonia), and for masculine names, "el" and "en" - being both used in daily speech :)

It's not a real grammatical mistake, but I guess it might be useful from now on to know we only can use "estimar" about people, so it's not quite exactly like the English "to love". :) To say we like something a lot, we may use constructions such as this one:
- M'agrada molt la platja
- M'agraden molt els ocells


BTW I don't remember having seen the word for sandwich posted here, but yeah, it's an English loandword :P

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 9
I can't see the first two pictures so I'll start with the third

Picture 3: Els ocells estimen el cel.

Picture 4: El bebè (or "nadó") mira.

Picture 5: Ells [s]son[/s] mengen.

Picture 6: can't see it

Picture 7: El cavall juga al joc.

Picture 8: can't see

Picture 9: La noia troba la terra.

Picture 10: Ells estimen els aliments (or "el menjar")

I couldn't see some of the images either... I guess the links are dead.

We use "el menjar" (as a noun) much more often than "els aliments". :)

As you can see, I corrected a minor mistake in picture 7, but I think it's about something that hasn't still been mentioned!

The verb jugar is always followed by the preposition "a" :)
And remember "a" has different forms:
a + el = al a + la = a la
a + els = als a + les = a les
It only changes in the masculine forms, but I thought it would be good pointing it out :)

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Postby culúrien » 2006-01-17, 23:33

thanks for your help and here´s another bundle!

Link to page: http://home.unilang.org/main/forum/view ... &start=105

Exercise 13:
1.Estan tots bé?


2.En Pau treballa lluny d'aqui?
No, Pau treballa aqui.

3.On treballa en Josep?
Josep treballa a una barberia.

4.Què és Lleida?
Lledia és una ciutat molt maca.

Exercise 14:

1.Què va fer ahir l'Eloi?
L'Eloi va jugar amb l'aigua.

2.Què està fent ara?
Ell està mirant ells ocells.

3.Què ha fet aquest matí?
Ell ha jugat amb la sorra.

4.Què fa cada dia?
Ell va a la platja.

5.Què van fer els ocells?
Ells ocells van cantar cançons.

6.Què pasa ara?
Està plovent.

Exercise 15:

Em dic Stacey. Ahir vaig comprar uns formatges. El formatge va menjar germà meu. Ara estic menjant el formatge. Avui he cantat unes cançons. Ahir vaig cantar una cançó sobre el formatge. I Ara estic parlant català.

Exercise 16:

Els nens juguen amb la sorra i l'aigua.
Avui he anat al metge.
Ahir ella va trucar-me.
En aquest moment, els alumnes estan aprenent a nedar.
Cada dia jo dormo bé.
Tu cantes una cançó molt llarga.

Exercise 17:

1.Avui he menjat a la universitat.
Today I ate at the university.

2.Nosaltres vam dormir a casa.
We slept at home.

3.La noia de cabells foscos està bevent aigua.
The dark-haired girl is drinking water.

4.Vaig rentar la roba al riu.
I washed the robe in the river.

5.Aquest matí he collit les fulles de l'abre.
This morning I have.....(not sure)

6.Els gossos ploren.
The dogs cried.

7.Potser ahir va ploure.
Perhaps yesterday it rained.

8.Mengem cireres a l'estiu.
We eat cherries in the summer.

9.La teva casa és blanca.
Your house is white.

10.Hem jugat amb el sol.
We have played in the sun.

Exercise 18:

L'Enric estima la Núria. La Laura estima el Joan. També Joan estima la Laura. La Núria estima l'Andreu. L'Andreu estima la Núria també.

Exercise 19:

Mai dormo amb gossos.
Quan ets menjant l'esmorzar?
A les 7 estic treballant.
Sempre canto unes cançons en la dutxa.
A vegades compro anells.
Normalment estimo el meu germà.
No vull saber la vegada.
Sovint visito les meves àvies.
Cada dia ballo una cançó.
Quan vaig al cinema, menjo dolços.
Has morit mai?
La setmana que ve...(can't think of a non-future way with this)
La setmana passada ella va esquiar en les muntanyes.
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Postby Guillem » 2006-01-18, 1:49

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 13:
1.Estan tots bé?


2.En Pau treballa lluny d'aquí?
No, en Pau treballa aquí.

3.On treballa en Josep?
En/El Josep treballa a una barberia.

4.Què és Lleida?
Lledia és una ciutat molt maca.

I am from Lleida btw :D :(

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 14:

1.Què va fer ahir l'Eloi?
L'Eloi va jugar amb l'aigua.

2.Què està fent ara?
Ell està mirant el[s]l[/s]s ocells.

3.Què ha fet aquest matí?
Ell ha jugat amb la sorra.

4.Què fa cada dia?
Ell va a la platja.

5.Què van fer els ocells?
El[s]l[/s]s ocells van cantar cançons.

6.Què passa ara?
Està plovent.


celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 15

Em dic Stacey. Ahir vaig comprar uns formatges. El meu germà va menjar formatge. Ara estic menjant el formatge. Avui he cantat unes cançons. Ahir vaig cantar una cançó sobre el formatge. I Ara estic parlant català.

Almost everything was correct :) Except that little part, which actually seemed to imply the cheese had eaten your brother :O

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 16:

Els nens juguen amb la sorra i l'aigua.
Avui he anat al metge.
Ahir ella va trucar-me.
En aquest moment, els alumnes estan aprenent a nedar.
Cada dia jo dormo bé.
Tu cantes una cançó molt llarga.

Perfect :wink:

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 17:

1.Avui he menjat a la universitat.
Today I ate at the university.

2.Nosaltres vam dormir a casa.
We slept at home.

3.La noia de cabells foscos està bevent aigua.
The dark-haired girl is drinking water.

4.Vaig rentar la roba al riu.
I washed the robe (or rather the clothes, as in a more general term, but you got the idea :wink:) in the river.

5.Aquest matí he collit les fulles de l'abre.
This morning I have.....(not sure) <- picked the (some) leaves from the tree.

6.Els gossos ploren.
The dogs cry.

7.Potser ahir va ploure.
Perhaps yesterday it rained.

8.Mengem cireres a l'estiu.
We eat cherries in the summer.

9.La teva casa és blanca.
Your house is white.

10.Hem jugat amb el sol.
We have played with the sun. <- I think what you wrote the actual meaning implied, and the most logical thing, but strangely enough, the sentence was "with the sun"...


celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 18:

L'Enric estima la Núria. La Laura estima el Joan. També [color=red]el Joan estima la Laura. La Núria estima l'Andreu. L'Andreu estima la Núria també.

Hehe! This text was cute :)

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 19:

Mai dormo amb gossos.
Two options-> Quan estàs menjant / menges l'esmorzar?
A les 7 estic treballant.
Sempre canto unes cançons a la dutxa.
A vegades compro anells.
Normalment estimo el meu germà.
No vull saber la vegada. <- It's not exactly incorrect, but it doesn't make much sense, since vegada means "time" as in "how many times", What did you wanted to say?
Sovint visito les meves àvies.
Cada dia ballo una cançó.
Quan vaig al cinema, menjo dolços.
Has mor[s]i[/s]t mai?
La setmana que ve...(can't think of a non-future way with this) Well, it was intended to be future anyway hihi :)
La setmana passada ella va esquiar a les muntanyes.

:)
I'm always excited to see people interested in Catalan, since foreigners who are eager to learn it seem to be almost a rarity here :)

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Postby culúrien » 2006-01-18, 2:02

The cheese was supposed to eat my brother :P

Yes I'm weird. I just though'd it be funny!

My mistakes are becoming smaller and smaller yay! I like Catalan. Because romance languages rock my socks! :P
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Postby culúrien » 2006-01-20, 0:00

Link:http://home.unilang.org/main/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135

Exercise 20:

Normalment aprovo els exàmens.
Cada dia he fumat.
Sempre vaig anar al cinema.
Quan vas anar a Andorra?
Ara estic menjant un entrepà.
A vegadas torna a casa.
Avui no he dormit a casa.
Ahir vaig a dormir.
Mai t'enyoro molt.
Sovint m'equivoco.

Exercise 21:

1.We have never smoked.
2.Yesterday they slept together.
3.When will you be home?
4.Sometimes I cry a lot.
5.I often sing songs.
6.He always plays the piano.
7.Now he is playing outside.
8.Normally he works at the....
9.Today I went to the market.
10.This week we received a letter.
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Exercise 24:

Cosir:
Coso
Coss
Cos
Cosim
Cosiu
Cosen

Cantar:
Canto
Cantes
Canta
Cantem
Canteu
Canten

Omplir:
Omplo
Ompls
Ompl
Omplim
Ompliu
Omplen

Penjar:
Penjo
Penges
Penja
Pengem
Pengeu
Pengen

respirar:
respiro
respires
respira
respirem
respireu
respiren

sentir:
sento
sents
sent
sentim
sentiu
senten

parlar:
parlo
parles
parla
parlem
parleu
parlen

*I realize some of the IR ones are probably irregular because they seem odd, but I just conjugated them reguarly because I wasn't sure of what to do

Exercise 25:

1.I never had enough sugar.
2.How many houses have you bought today?
3.I've earned few euros.
4.I often buy a lot of drinks.
5.You are very nice!
6.She is quite intelligent, but he is very shy.
7.I have obtained some flour.
8.A few mice walked.

Exercise 26:
25: vint-i-cinc
78: setanta-vuit
367: tres-cents seixanta-set
9: nou
88: vuitanta-vuit
1974: mil nou-cents setanta-quatre
47: quaranta-set
22: vint-i-dos
17: disset
19: dinou
14: catorze
1812: mil vuit-cents dotze
777: set-cents setanta-set
53: cinquanta-tres
29: vint-i-nou
13: tretze
18: divuit
16: setze
0: zero
5789: cinc-mil set-cents vuitanta-nou
673: sis-cents setenta-tres

Exercise 27:

1.Qui és pobre?
jo sóc!

2.Quants caramels han comprat els nens?
Els han comprat forces caramels.

3.Quanta gent compra?
coses.

4.Els nens han vingut sols?
no

5.Qui compra roba?
les mares

Exercise 28:

Correct:

1. La seves mares han comprat gelats.
-la should be les

2. Dos cents ocells volen.
-should be dos-cents

3. Les noies són forces amables.
-forces should be força

4.Ella és molta maca.
-molt is invariable, and should be molt

5.Avui he menjar bé.
-menjar should be menjat

6.Nosaltres sou mallorquins.
-sou is for vosotros, it should be som

7.Mai dormeu aquí.
conjugated as an ar verb. should be dormiu

Exercise 30:

We have slept 346 hours. We are still tired. Life is difficult. We eat a lot of things and we sleep a lot. Our lives are long. And we are short. Yesterday we slept alot. Today we have eaten little. How much (don't know what fem means) every day?
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Postby Guillem » 2006-01-25, 20:57

I'm sorry about the big delay, I have been busy busy :? BTW thanks for posting the links, it proved very useful to know where were the exercises ;)

EXERCISE 20
celebrian23 wrote:Cada dia he fumat.

Cada dia should go always with the present, thus "cada dia fumo". Which is not my case btw :P
celebrian23 wrote:Sempre vaig anar al cinema.

This sentence would be correct if you wrote it like this: "sempre vaig al cinema". In this case I would have chosen ahir.

Avui no he dormit a casa.
celebrian23 wrote:Ahir vaig [s]a[/s] dormir.

:mrgreen: Vaig a is "I'm going to", "vaig" would be the past form. Catalan is tricky in this sense ;)
I would have chosen the following time expressions for this one: avui, mai, sovint, sempre, cada dia, ara, a vegades.

celebrian23 wrote:Mai t'enyoro molt.

Correct, but do you say that to your bf? :mrgreen:

celebrian23 wrote:Sovint m'equivoco.

Jo també!! Quina casualitat :P Correct ;)

celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 21:

1.We have never smoked.
2.Yesterday they slept together.
3.When will you be home?
4.Sometimes I cry a lot.
5.I often sing songs.
6.He always plays the piano.
7.Now he is playing outside.
8.Normally he works at the.... fishmarket
9.Today I went to the market.
10.Last week we received a letter.

Besides that, all correct ;)

EXERCISE 24
celebrian23 wrote:Cosir:
Cuso
Cuses
Cus
Cosim
Cosiu
Cusen

This is irregular and nobody told you ò_ó I'll spank them.

celebrian23 wrote:Omplir:
Omplo
Omples
Omple
Omplim
Ompliu
Omplen


celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 25:

1.I never had enough sugar.
2.How many houses have you bought today?
3.I've earned few euros.
4.I often buy a lot of drinks.
5.You are very nice!
6.She is quite intelligent, but he is very shy.
7.I have obtained some flour.
8.A few mice walk[s]ed[/s].

8)
celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 26:
25: vint-i-cinc
78: setanta-vuit
367: tres-cents seixanta-set
9: nou
88: vuitanta-vuit
1974: mil nou-cents setanta-quatre
47: quaranta-set
22: vint-i-dos
17: disset
19: dinou
14: catorze
1812: mil vuit-cents dotze
777: set-cents setanta-set
53: cinquanta-tres
29: vint-i-nou
13: tretze
18: divuit
16: setze
0: zero
5789: cinc-mil set-cents vuitanta-nou
673: sis-cents setanta-tres


celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 27:

1.Qui és pobre?
jo sóc!

2.Quants caramels han comprat els nens?
Els han comprat forces caramels.

3.Quanta gent compra?
Molta remember it is how many people buy, not what people buy ;)

4.Els nens han vingut sols?
no

5.Qui compra roba?
les mares


celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 28:

Correct:

1. La seves mares han comprat gelats.
-la should be les

2. Dos cents ocells volen.
-should be dos-cents

3. Les noies són forces amables.
-forces should be força

4.Ella és molta maca.
-molt is invariable, and should be molt

5.Avui he menjar bé.
-menjar should be menjat

6.Nosaltres sou mallorquins.
-sou is for vosotros, it should be som

7.Mai dormeu aquí.
conjugated as an ar verb. should be dormiu

Yay, you're good indeed at picking mistakes ;)


celebrian23 wrote:Exercise 30:

We have slept 346 hours. We are still tired. Life is difficult. We eat a lot of things and we sleep a lot. Our lives are long. And we are short. Yesterday we slept alot. Today we have eaten little. How much (don't know what fem means ) every day?

<- fem = we do, thus "how many things we do every day?"
The rest was good :)

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Postby culúrien » 2006-01-31, 3:42

I didn't mind the delay. I'm grounded :shock: so it may be a while before I post anything new :cry:
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Postby Guillem » 2006-01-31, 5:27

celebrian23 wrote:I didn't mind the delay. I'm grounded :shock: so it may be a while before I post anything new :cry:

Oh why so? Tell me :(

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Postby culúrien » 2006-02-05, 20:34

I didn't clean my room before my dad picked me up to go to his apartment. Haha yeah only I would get a month's worth of computer punishment for such a thing. I'm hoping I can do some more exercises whenever I'm at my dad's.
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Postby Soassae » 2006-02-17, 13:58

Hola a tothom!

on Monday I will fly to the States. There I will meet two colleagues of mine, one from Valencia, one from Barcelona. I would like to tell them the following in Catalan (I sort of promised I would have studied a bit of Catalan, but I'm too far behind....):

"I will be here for a couple of months to serve as operation manager of the XXX detector and to work on data quality. I wish I were able to say this (and even more) in Catalan, but I'm still very bad, and I could only learn these few words by heart!"

As you see, it's something neither serious, nor urgent. I don't want to waste your time, so don't mind if you will have no chance to answer :P

Moltes gràcies!

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Postby culúrien » 2006-02-17, 16:05

http://home.unilang.org/main/forum/view ... &start=180

Exercise 31:

I've got a cat but it's old.
Tinc un gat però és vella.

I bought a lot of seeds and now I have a lot of trees. (what a silly sentence!)
Vaig Comprar molts llavors i ara tinc molts arbres.

I want to play with you.
Vull jugar amb tu.

I can't sleep and I want to watch tv.
No puc dormir i vull mirar el televisió.

I've got little hair and I can't go to the hairdresser.
Tinc poc pèl i no puc anar al barber.

Yesterday I couldn't sleep.
Ahir no puc dormir.

Exercise 33:

Judy pot aprovar els seus exams, però no és intel·ligent bastante i no pot. El seu germà és ric i té una biblioteca. També és molt intel·ligent i pot ajudar la seva germana. Però no vol ajudar la seva germana. No estan contents i no estan pacients. Quan vol ajudar algú i pot ajudar algú, canta molts cancons. Ha cantat bastante avui.
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Postby elxiquet » 2006-02-17, 17:06

pufi wrote:"I will be here for a couple of months to serve as operation manager of the XXX detector and to work on data quality. I wish I were able to say this (and even more) in Catalan, but I'm still very bad, and I could only learn these few words by heart!"


Estaré ací per un parell de mesos com a director del detector de XXX i per a treballar en (la) qualitat de (les) dades. M'agradaria poder dir açò (i més) en Català, però encara sóc molt roín, i només m'he pogut aprendre estes poques paraules de memòria!

This is in valencian version :P You can change ací for aquí and roín for dolent and u'll have the oriental version. :P

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Postby Soassae » 2006-02-17, 20:20

elxiquet wrote:
pufi wrote:"I will be here for a couple of months to serve as operation manager of the XXX detector and to work on data quality. I wish I were able to say this (and even more) in Catalan, but I'm still very bad, and I could only learn these few words by heart!"


Estaré ací per un parell de mesos com a director del detector de XXX i per a treballar en (la) qualitat de (les) dades. M'agradaria poder dir açò (i més) en Català, però encara sóc molt roín, i només m'he pogut aprendre estes poques paraules de memòria!

This is in valencian version :P You can change ací for aquí and roín for dolent and u'll have the oriental version. :P


Thank you very much! And sorry for the intrusion: I hope I will come back soon to seriously attempt to learn Catalan :)

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Postby 0stsee » 2006-11-30, 13:40

How do you say this in Catalan?


Hej ...! I hope you're doing fine down there in Spain.

I don't really like such mails, either, but thanks nonetheless for sharing!!

God bless,

...


Gràcies!



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Postby Mornaran » 2006-12-04, 12:15

0stsee wrote:How do you say this in Catalan?


Hej ...! I hope you're doing fine down there in Spain.

I don't really like such mails, either, but thanks nonetheless for sharing!!

God bless,

...


Gràcies!



Mark


Ei! Espere que et vagi bé per Espanya.

No m'agraden de veritat eixos correus, però gràcies de totes formes per compartir-los!!

Any idea for god bless???

Well, that was my translation, which is not 100% correct :wink:

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Postby Guillem » 2006-12-04, 20:03

Mornaran wrote:
0stsee wrote:How do you say this in Catalan?


Hej ...! I hope you're doing fine down there in Spain.

I don't really like such mails, either, but thanks nonetheless for sharing!!

God bless,

...


Gràcies!



Mark


Ei! Espere que et vagi bé per Espanya.

No m'agraden de veritat eixos correus, però gràcies de totes formes per compartir-los!!

Any idea for god bless???

Well, that was my translation, which is not 100% correct :wink:

God bless = Que Déu et beneeixi :)

I'd say "aquests" instead of "eixos" because it's the form used in my dialect, but either way is perfectly correct.

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Postby 0stsee » 2006-12-04, 22:21

Moltes Gràcies, guys!!

I read aloud the whole second chapter of the book of Romans, and am getting more and more used to it. ;-)

My knowledge would probably stay be a passive one, until I visit somewhere in Països Catalans.


Another question is, do you pronounce the R in the word per? How about per a? Do you pronounce the R there?



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