Mars80 wrote:How do you pronounce "caramel"? I pronounce it as /kɑɹml̩/.
hashi wrote:I was thinking today about the way I pronounce student, which is something like [ʃtʃʉd̚n̩t].
How does everyone else do it?
linguoboy wrote:Mars80 wrote:How do you pronounce "caramel"? I pronounce it as /kɑɹml̩/.
I grew up saying that, but at some point I began saying [ˈkʰæɚ̯əml̩] as well, and now I switch between the two according to criteria so arcane I've never been able to sort them out.
I have a few words like that, like "either" and "envelope". Generally, though, I'll use my normal [ˈiðɚ] and [ˈɜnvɫ̩op] until my conversational partner uses the /ˈaɪðər/ or /ˈɑːnvəloʊp/ pronunciation. I wonder if there's any regional variation there.
vijayjohn wrote:AFAIK there's no such thing as an "Austin accent." But yes, it's possible that toogletoggle does have a Texas accent. I've met some people like that here (in Austin) but not all that many.
I remember reading something once about slightly different dialectal features reported in different areas of Texas, especially including how much or little /aʊ/ was raised and /ɔː/ was diphthongized, although I don't remember which of the three or four "zones" described Austin fell into. I wouldn't expect Austin to have much of an established dialect, though, even a general Southern one, because of all the transplants.
(This is why I'm skeptical of the conventional wisdom that NYC having a dialect at all is "dying out" - what we know of today as Brooklynese, formed over time by Dutch, Jewish, Italian, Russian, etc. immigrants may be losing ground, but immigration into the city from Asia, Africa, and Latin America is higher than ever, so I wouldn't be surprised if something akin to Multicultural London English developed there.)