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English Cyrillic

Postby tomasz » 2005-11-24, 1:23

I'm not sure if anyone would find this interesting, but the other day, my friend showed me a version of the English alphabet, in Cyrillic. I was wondering (if you know Cyrillic a language) what you think about it. (vowels are stared)

A a - a *
Я я - ya
Б б - b
Ч ч - ch
Д д - d
Э э - e (fed)*
Е е - ye
Ф ф - f
Г г - g
Х х - h
И и - i*
Ђ ђ - j
К к - k
Л л - l
М м - m
Н н - n
О о - o*
Θ θ - yo
П п - p
Р р - r
С с - s
Ш ш - sh
Т т - t
Ћ ћ - th
У у - oo*
Ю ю - yoo
В в - v
Љ љ - w
Й й - y*
З з - z
Ж ж - zh

Dipthongs/other letters

ай - i, mine
эй - ay, bay
ой - oi/oy, boy/ toilet
Ϊ ї – i, is
 ⠖ a, cat
Ё ё – u, but
Ÿ ÿ – "schwa", good / foot

To prove that this actually works, the text at the top appears below:

Ай’м нат шÿр ïф эниљон љÿд файд ћïс ïнтэрэстинг, бÿт ћё ёћэр дэй, май фрэнд шод ми эй вэржён ёв ћё Инглïш алфабэт, ïн Сïрïлïк. Ай љёз љёндэриг (ïф ю но эй Сïрïлïк лâнгљфг) љёт ю ћинк эбољт ïт. (вољэлз ар стард)
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Postby Stan » 2005-11-24, 1:51

Cool! :D

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Postby JackFrost » 2005-11-24, 5:16

Haha...I used to do that sometimes with real Russian Cyrillic rules, though it doesn't reflect the pronouciations in English. :D
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Postby Kazimer » 2005-11-24, 7:30

8) Maybe English should be written with cyrillic.

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Postby MikeL » 2005-11-24, 7:32

I know the Russian alphabet but I'm intrigued by the extra letters - what languages use them?

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Postby Kazimer » 2005-11-24, 7:45

    Ђ ђ - j
    Θ θ - yo
    Ћ ћ - th
    Љ љ - w


MikeL wrote:I know the Russian alphabet but I'm intrigued by the extra letters - what languages use them?


Most of these are used in Serbian (Ђ, Ћ,and Љ) and one (Θ) looks like a loan from Greek. :? If you'd like to know more look at the Greek and Cyrillic alphabets on here at http://www.omniglot.com/writing/cyrillic.htm or http://www.omniglot.com/writing/greek.htm.

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Postby mind » 2005-11-24, 9:44

JackFrost wrote:Haha...I used to do that sometimes with real Russian Cyrillic rules, though it doesn't reflect the pronouciations in English. :D

Not a single bit worse than Latin ;)
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Postby Jamie*On » 2005-11-24, 11:11

It's of course not a bad idea but there are too many diacritical signs. If it was totally simplified then maybe there would be a reason to chose Cyrillic over Roman.

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Postby greg-fr » 2005-11-24, 11:36

Adding diacritics to Cyrillic can be funny :

    Салы а тус !
    Ж'екри с пти тэкст пур вуар си ву зариве а лир л фра~се екри а~ сирилик. Вуаьё~ до~к си о~ пъ дялоге и~си, са сре бьи~ дрол ж па~с д'естропье ы~ пъ нотр ортограф !
    Есэье д рэспэкте ме норм д'адаптасьё~ ортографик (мэм си се парфуа ы~ пъ ко~плэкс, са ра~ л жъ плы замыза~). Ж сыи тутфуа увэр а лир во пропр задаптасьё~.
    Кэскъ ву за~ па~се ?

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Postby paruha » 2005-11-24, 11:52

I think it's a bit difficult to read (maybe cause I'm not used to all the Cyrillic letters, some of the Serbian ones, for example).


But why "Љ љ - w"? I thought it was pronounced quite differently :?


And what do the stars next to some letters mean? (like Й й - y*)
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Postby lu:ka » 2005-11-24, 12:32

greg-fr wrote:Adding diacritics to Cyrillic can be funny :

    Салы а тус !
    Ж'екри с пти тэкст пур вуар си ву зариве а лир л фра~се екри а~ сирилик. Вуаьё~ до~к си о~ пъ дялоге и~си, са сре бьи~ дрол ж па~с д'естропье ы~ пъ нотр ортограф !
    Есэье д рэспэкте ме норм д'адаптасьё~ ортографик (мэм си се парфуа ы~ пъ ко~плэкс, са ра~ л жъ плы замыза~). Ж сыи тутфуа увэр а лир во пропр задаптасьё~.
    Кэскъ ву за~ па~се ?


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Postby mind » 2005-11-24, 13:25

greg-fr wrote:Салы а тус !

Салю а тус.

Frankly, when I saw the text, I had an impression it was written in Kazakh. :)
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Postby Quetzalcoatl » 2005-11-24, 13:32

Их хальтэ дафон нихтс. Дас дойчэ золльтэ видэр мит Рунэн гэшрибэн вэрдэн :cool:

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Postby tomasz » 2005-11-24, 14:00

paruha wrote:And what do the stars next to some letters mean? (like Й й - y*)


The stars represent vowels.
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Postby kibo » 2005-11-24, 14:00

paruha wrote:But why "Љ љ - w"? I thought it was pronounced quite differently :?


Yes, Љ љ stands for [ʎ], I guess it's because on the serbian keyboard it's on the W key. But I dont think the phonetic meaning is important here.

I would suggest the Belarussian Ў ў which is more or less like the English 'w'. :)

paruha wrote:And what do the stars next to some letters mean? (like Й й - y*)


(vowels are stared)


Some comments:
- I would put the Serbian Џ џ for the 'j', since Ч ч and Џ џ form one pair and Ћ ћ and Ђ ђ the other. You could put Ћ ћ for the th in think, and Ђ ђ for the th in that. (if you want to differ them that is)
- Why not Ы ы for schwa? Or Ъ ъ?
- You put Ϊ ї for [ɪ] but you don't have І і used in Ukrainian.
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Postby tomasz » 2005-11-24, 14:17

- Why not Ы ы for schwa? Or Ъ ъ?


Like I said, I didn't create this alphabet. My friend Dennis did. I helped him edit it a little before I posted it, and I wanted to use "Ы ы" for schwa (a few letters wouldn't appear when typed). He said it didn't make sense, and I didn't feel like arguing him, so I just posted it as it is.
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Postby avataar » 2005-11-24, 14:20

Urgh, people, the fact that Russian has е and э doesn't mean you have to do that in other languages. That is purely Russian (and I believe Belarusian too) and has nothing to do in the original Cyrillic alphabet or in any other modern Slavonic language written in Cyrillic. Е (Cyrillic) is just e (Latin), pronounced as a single pure vowel. Of course if you want to write English à la Russian it's OK to use it as you did.
Ein ring skal styra deim,
ein ring skal finna deim.
Ein ring tvinga deim
og i myrker binda deim
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Postby Jamie*On » 2005-11-26, 15:45

IMO Hebrew would be better - it simplifies everything. There are less letters and no need to even use all of them.

מישל יז בד

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The only confusion could be "bad" and "bed" - put it into context and there is no doubt it's bad. Bed would need an article and why would a person be a bed anyway?

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Postby tomasz » 2005-11-26, 16:26

Jamie*On wrote:IMO Hebrew would be better


I personally would like to see what English would look like written in Hebrew.

Bed would need an article

If it could be done without articles, it would be even better. (I don't like them.)
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Postby Jamie*On » 2005-11-26, 19:54

Well on this laptop it's hard since Hebrew isn't installed but I'll try to put an example up. I think people would learn to read a lot faster if we used it. And the issue of "in Texas it's said this way, in London that..." etc. would be resolved because only the most basic indication necessary would be used.


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