"Phrasal verbs" are normal verbs!

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"Phrasal verbs" are normal verbs!

Postby repl2 » 2017-06-21, 5:27

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The point is that so called "phrasal verbs" (e.g. 'come in', 'come out') should be treated as "verb+postfix=new_verb". It's the same thing as German "disconnectable prefixes"! The "postfixes" could even became ordinary "prefixes" and "postfixes":
'to come in' -- 'income'
'to come out' -- 'outcome'
'to go on' -- 'ongoing'
'to start up' -- 'startup'

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Re: "Phrasal verbs" are normal verbs!

Postby voron » 2017-06-21, 13:56

repl2 wrote:The point is that so called "phrasal verbs" (e.g. 'come in', 'come out') should be treated as "verb+postfix=new_verb".

They are named "phrasal" because adding a preposition changes the meaning of the verb completely.

In Russian, if you know "бежать" (to run) and you know that "вы-" generally means "out", you can guess that "выбежать" means "run out (of some place)".

In English, if you know "give" and you know "up", it doesn't help you to derive the meaning of "give up". You have to memorize it. That's the difference.

Also, what does your attached picture have to do with phrasal verbs?

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Re: "Phrasal verbs" are normal verbs!

Postby repl2 » 2017-07-08, 4:33

voron wrote:In English, if you know "give" and you know "up", it doesn't help you to derive the meaning of "give up". You have to memorize it. That's the difference.

That's because English teachers want to keep their job

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Re: "Phrasal verbs" are normal verbs!

Postby md0 » 2018-04-24, 15:52

Phrasal verbs are just Root-incorporation before the √P even becomes a verb :)

So yes, they are normal verbs, once they become verbs. Or they become nouns (the fall-out).
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Re: "Phrasal verbs" are normal verbs!

Postby voron » 2018-04-24, 16:28

repl2 wrote:Взагалі важко щось viдповісти шизіку, в котрого на аватарці -- вовк, а нік -- крук. Ти лікуватися не пробував?

Спрабаваў, але не дапамагло.

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Re: "Phrasal verbs" are normal verbs!

Postby linguoboy » 2018-04-24, 16:29

Someone said they were abnormal?

There's a distinct name for them because their syntax isn't the same as that of non-phrasal verbs. It's also not the same as that of German separable-prefix verbs, despite the obvious similarities. Cf.:

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