I think English really needs a spelling reform

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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby Levike » 2015-08-08, 21:55

I know when I was a kid and watching English movies translated into Hungarian whenever I heard of these "spelling Bs" I was just thinking "How can they be that stupid, what's so hard about learning 44 letters and combining them".

But then when I got to 6th grade and started English as a foreign language and my first sentence was:

"Disse is a biutifulle hausse".

So then I realised how horrible English is.

But I'm still grateful it doesn't have weird characters.
If German could be written with "ae/oe/ue" and "ss" I would be so happy.
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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby vijayjohn » 2015-08-19, 4:56

Levike wrote:spelling Bs bees

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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby Linguist » 2015-10-06, 11:12

Oh no, please don’t use ae oe ue and ss in place of ä ö ü and ß :| I hate it when one single sound is represented by multiple characters. This is sooo annoying, especially in the case of english or french. I wish every sound had one character so it’d be much easier to read and write words I’ve never heard of.

Romanian has some lovely characters, too. :o
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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby linguoboy » 2015-10-26, 21:20

Linguist wrote:I hate it when one single sound is represented by multiple characters.

"tsch"
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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby Levike » 2015-10-26, 21:33

Linguist wrote:Romanian has some lovely characters, too. :o

ă is really ugly, as well as î and â. ț and ș don't look nice either.

Whilst working on my project in Wolfsburg I always wrote Muenchen. :twisted:

PS: In case of Hungarian I want diacritics to disappear even more. No more áéíóúöőüű. If Hebrew can get away with forgetting to write its vowels then Hungarian can also forget its diacritics. And German also. I don't need them to guide me, I know how to pronounce stuff.

This is the reason I like English, no scratches and lines and dots all over the place. Even though its spelling is... the way it is.
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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby TheStrayCat » 2015-10-27, 3:38

Levike wrote:
Linguist wrote:Romanian has some lovely characters, too. :o

ă is really ugly, as well as î and â. ț and ș don't look nice either.

Whilst working on my project in Wolfsburg I always wrote Muenchen. :twisted:

PS: In case of Hungarian I want diacritics to disappear even more. No more áéíóúöőüű. If Hebrew can get away with forgetting to write its vowels then Hungarian can also forget its diacritics. And German also. I don't need them to guide me, I know how to pronounce stuff.

This is the reason I like English, no scratches and lines and dots all over the place. Even though its spelling is... the way it is.


What would you do with Vietnamese orthography? :)

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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby Tenebrarum » 2015-10-27, 5:32

Funny people who want languages to look a certain way.
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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby Levike » 2015-10-27, 5:59

TheStrayCat wrote:What would you do with Vietnamese orthography? :)

Vietnamese has its own thing going on.

But a diacritic-free German would be splendid. :whistle:
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Re: I think English really needs a spelling reform

Postby Kekāne‘āhē » 2015-11-24, 1:25

I generally don't think spelling reform is feasible, unless it's a modest reform being proposed. The trouble is, there's too much variation in pronunciation (certainly more than the amount of variation in spelling). In your case, for example, how would the word "ask" be spelled? I lack the trap-bath split, so under your system, I would spell it "äsk", whereas most people from England or Australia would spell it "ask". Similarly, I would spell "thought" as "Þot", where as most people in Englad and Australia would spell it as "Þót."
Also, if you represent /ou/ as in "goat" with "ow", how would you spell "ow" words with /au/ pronunciation?
Also, why write /ʃ/ as "ś" instead of the traditional "sh"? I can't think of any reason for this because as far as I can think, "sh" never indicates any phoneme other than /ʃ/, except in a few compound words.

Also, where are you from? I'm curious because your spelling reform suggestion suggests you make the father-bother and pour-poor distinctions, and you use a "u" in "colour", and to my knowledge, such a combination of features is uncommon.


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