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JuxtapositionQMan wrote:jes. wɑj dɔnt jʉ pʊt ˈspesez?
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:stɪll
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:oˈke fɪkst
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:qwɛstʃjɞn
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:kʰlɪkɪŋ
linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:qwɛstʃjɞn
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these:linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:kʰlɪkɪŋ
ˈkʰlɪkʰɪŋ↗
linguoboy wrote:ˈðɛɚ̯ət̚ˈlist̚ ‖ ˈnaʊ̯ˈ...ˈstɹɛs|ˌæspɪˈ...ˌθɒ̃ŋz ‖ ˌjɚ...ˈneɪ̯di.ən|ˈjʉʊ̯̈...ˈvaʊ̯ɫz ‖
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:qwɛstʃjɞn
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Sorry, but I still can't understand you. Regular English please?
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:these:linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:kʰlɪkɪŋ
ˈkʰlɪkʰɪŋ↗linguoboy wrote:ˈðɛɚ̯ət̚ˈlist̚ ‖ ˈnaʊ̯ˈ...ˈstɹɛs|ˌæspɪˈ...ˌθɒ̃ŋz ‖ ˌjɚ...ˈneɪ̯di.ən|ˈjʉʊ̯̈...ˈvaʊ̯ɫz ‖
Well, it's [tʃjɞn]. Does that count? I am very bad at vowels, so that's probably incorrect, but the rest holds. (Also, yes I am aware of q's IPA value. It just sounds off to say "question" with a [k], like a Brit was saying it or something)linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:qwɛstʃjɞn
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Sorry, but I still can't understand you. Regular English please?
Please look up what [q] represents in IPA. (Also, if you really have [jɞn] for the second syllable, then your pronunciation is far more affected that I ever would've credited.)
Ohhhhhh...linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:these:linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:kʰlɪkɪŋ
ˈkʰlɪkʰɪŋ↗linguoboy wrote:ˈðɛɚ̯ət̚ˈlist̚ ‖ ˈnaʊ̯ˈ...ˈstɹɛs|ˌæspɪˈ...ˌθɒ̃ŋz ‖ ˌjɚ...ˈneɪ̯di.ən|ˈjʉʊ̯̈...ˈvaʊ̯ɫz ‖
Oh, I see; you're unable to distinguish lateral clicks from prosody marks. No wonder you can't read what I wrote.
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:Well, it's [tʃjɞn]. Does that count?
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:Also, yes I am aware of q's IPA value.
linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:Well, it's [tʃjɞn]. Does that count?
Could you make a recording? When I say this aloud, it sounds like no pronunciation I've ever heard before, not even from a non-native.
If not, what?I wrote:I am very bad at vowels, so that's probably incorrect, but the rest holds.
linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:Also, yes I am aware of q's IPA value.
So what is it?
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:If not, what?
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:Also, yes I am aware of q's IPA value.
So what is it?
It's a uvular stop. It corresponds to ق in the arabic alphabet, क़ in devanagari, and sometimes is actually represented by q. I am aware that it is not an English phoneme, however, and the only places I find myself using it is in the classic qu (question, aquifer, aqueous), directly after short-but-has-nothing-to-do-with-vowel-length o (rock, sock, knock) and at random other places (rack, khacki, unique, coy). Unless, of course, I'm just interpreting it wrong and what I actually do is [kˤ] or something. After all, all I really know with IPA are the semivowels [w], [j], [ɰ], and [ɥ] and what any other sound isn't; the rest is guesstimation, so all I really know is that it isn't [k] or [kʰ].
Thanks. I just wanted to know what's dubious about it (still learning the whole IPA thingykajingy).linguoboy wrote:JuxtapositionQMan wrote:If not, what?
Well, then there's not much I can do but continue to doubt that you actually have a full onglide coupled a rounded vowel in that syllable.
No, but if I listen to a recording of [k] it sounds much further away than [q], and if I try to say the Uyghur for white, aq, (because why not?), it's the same sound as in "question", but the q in question doesn't sound the same as the k in kurt, and when I try to imitate a recording, it sounds the same as the q in question.linguoboy wrote:What makes you so sure it isn't [k] or [kʰ]? Can you reach into your throat and feel where the contact between your tongue and oral cavity takes place?
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:No, but if I listen to a recording of [k] it sounds much further away than [q], and if I try to say the Uyghur for white, aq, (because why not?), it's the same sound as in "question", but the q in question doesn't sound the same as the k in kurt, and when I try to imitate a recording, it sounds the same as the q in question.linguoboy wrote:What makes you so sure it isn't [k] or [kʰ]? Can you reach into your throat and feel where the contact between your tongue and oral cavity takes place?
JuxtapositionQMan wrote:I can do all of those, but I have no way to transfer that into IPA. How do I do that?
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