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mōdgethanc wrote:Ugh, folk music. That's for boomers.
mōdgethanc wrote:Tove Lo
I think you are using a different definition of folk music than me. From what I can tell, you mostly listen to what white people call world music. Folk music to me is stuff like Bob Dylan and other white people with acoustic guitars which was popular in the 1960s, ie. when boomers were young. I assumed that was what was meant by it because I don't read the other thread.vijayjohn wrote:Just because you don't like the kind of music I listen to doesn't mean you have to be ageist about it.
I'm a fan of that one too. Do you have Spotify?Yasna wrote:She has been making some great stuff. I especially like "Moments".
mōdgethanc wrote:I assumed that was what was meant by it because I don't read the other thread.
The main music thread has been swamped by folk music
Well I didn't know that, and there is now a separate thread. Now everyone can be happy.vijayjohn wrote:he meant "Vijay has been posting too much world music in that thread and I can't stand it and have been whining about it for at least two years, including once suggesting he should make a thread for his own song posts so I don't have to see them anymore." There is no Bob Dylan or any other kind of white North American folk music in that thread.
mōdgethanc wrote:Well I didn't know that, and there is now a separate thread. Now everyone can be happy.
mōdgethanc wrote:Folk music to me is stuff like Bob Dylan and other white people with acoustic guitars which was popular in the 1960s, ie. when boomers were young.
vijayjohn wrote:Nope, jsyk when Yasna said:The main music thread has been swamped by folk music
he meant "Vijay has been posting too much world music in that thread and I can't stand it and have been whining about it for at least two years, including once suggesting he should make a thread for his own song posts so I don't have to see them anymore." There is no Bob Dylan or any other kind of white North American folk music in that thread.
mōdgethanc wrote:I'm a fan of that one too. Do you have Spotify?
mōdgethanc wrote:She attracts a lot of controversy for her outspoken political views and trollish behaviour so needless to say, I love her.
Aurinĭa wrote:Then what would you call modern folk music? Most of the folk music I listen to was made in this century and is very far from "white people with acoustic guitars". English is woefully inaccurate when talking about folk music; Dutch has many different terms for different genres (a lot of them some kind of fusion with other genres) that are all just lumped together as "folk music" in English.
That's why I disliked the other thread and avoided it. It became bloated with videos of music I'm not interested in.Yasna wrote:And it's not as easy to ignore uninteresting posts as in a text-based thread.
I think it's a great resource. It helps me organize my music collection and its recommendations are often good.I rarely use it.
I don't know what other languages call it. I would call modern folk music "folk music". I didn't mean to imply it's only limited to the 1960s; it existed before then and still exists. That was just the height of its popularity. Musicologists might use folk music in its broader meaning, but IME, folk music means music for middle-aged white people. Folk music of other cultures is called world music. I have to admit I don't care for folk music at any rate, so I'm not torn that my understanding of the term is inaccurate. I feel no woe about it whatsoever, trust me.Aurinĭa wrote:Then what would you call modern folk music? Most of the folk music I listen to was made in this century and is very far from "white people with acoustic guitars". English is woefully inaccurate when talking about folk music; Dutch has many different terms for different genres (a lot of them some kind of fusion with other genres) that are all just lumped together as "folk music" in English.
Needless to say she doesn't give a fuck what people think of her and her music, let alone her politics.vijayjohn wrote:Trollish behavior
vijayjohn wrote:Aurinĭa wrote:Then what would you call modern folk music? Most of the folk music I listen to was made in this century and is very far from "white people with acoustic guitars". English is woefully inaccurate when talking about folk music; Dutch has many different terms for different genres (a lot of them some kind of fusion with other genres) that are all just lumped together as "folk music" in English.
I'm not sure this use of the term is any less problematic even from an English-speaking point of view. It seems to me that everything that isn't (usually instrumental) Western classical music and doesn't follow a style invented in the West within the previous century is lumped together as "folk music." I'm pretty sure I've even seen other kinds of classical music be called "folk music," not "classical music," which would make more sense. I would not be surprised even to see people who use the term "folk music" this way label pop music from other cultures as "folk music."
mōdgethanc wrote:IME, folk music means music for middle-aged white people
Aurinĭa wrote:What specific use of the term are you referring to as problematic? Just like mōdgethanc, I don't just call everything that isn't a Western music style "folk music". Indian classical music isn't folk music, it's classical music. There's J-pop, K-pop,... and none of those I'd ever dream of calling folk music.
vijayjohn wrote:By now I'm confused about what people mean by "folk music." Genres in general confuse me.
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