Music in minority languages

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-12-29, 7:38

Megleno-Romanian is an Eastern Romance language or language variety closely related to Romanian but spoken mainly along the border between Greece and Macedonia. It's also spoken by emigrants from the region in Romania and a small Muslim group in Turkey. This is a song in Megleno-Romanian called "Dutsiri ăn minti" (apparently meaning 'reminders'?) by a Romanian singer named Adena who performs songs in various Eastern Romance language varieties. A translation into Romanian can be found by clicking on CC as well as in the video description, where it comes after the original Megleno-Romanian lyrics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PLuDxEVG7A

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-20, 7:50

The Gheg varieties of Albanian are divided into four subgroups, namely Northwest Gheg, Northeast Gheg, Central Gheg, and Southern Gheg. Southern Gheg includes the variety spoken in Tirana. This song is in a Central Gheg variety spoken in Debar, which is in Macedonia. The singers names are Bledar Kaca and Leonard Islami, and the song is called "Kukësi e Dibra krah për krah" (Dibra is the Albanian name for Debar):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSENI5ODZk&app=desktop
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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-20, 23:32

Cappadocian a.k.a. Cappadocian Greek or Asia Minor Greek is a mixed language that started out as a variety of Greek that was heavily influenced by Turkish. It was formerly spoken in Central Turkey but is now mainly spoken in Central and Northern Greece. Apparently, the younger generations of speakers have a much more positive attitude towards their language than their parents and grandparents, who tend to use Standard Modern Greek instead. This is apparently a Cappadocian song about the legend of St. George and the dragon called "Agior Agior afenti mou" (Αγιώρ' Αγιώρ' αφέντη μου):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4EzgZyNULI

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-03, 3:00

Gollobordë or Golo Brdo is the name of a geographical region located mostly in Albania but partially extending over onto the Macedonian side of the border. There is another distinctive variety of Macedonian spoken in this area. This is a video of some song clips in Macedonian being played and danced to in Gollobordë in Albania:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnq1QwmS56A&app=desktop

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-10, 5:30

Karamanli Turkish is a variety of Turkish spoken by the Karamanlides, a group of Orthodox Christians in the Ottoman Empire. It might be classified as a variety of Balkan Gagauz Turkish. This is a Karamanli Turkish song from Greece. I don't remember where exactly in Greece this clip comes from (or whether I ever found out), but in Greece, it seems to be mainly spoken in Thrace (northeastern Greece) near the border with Bulgaria (where Turkish is also widely spoken):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tmf3bVBO5o

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-10, 19:20

Balkan Gagauz Turkish a.k.a. Balkan Gagauz, Balkan Turkic, and Rumelian is a Turkic language very closely related to Turkish, spoken mainly in Macedonia and Bulgaria as well as (apparently) Turkey. Karamanli Turkish is apparently a variety of Balkan Gagauz Turkish. This is a song from Macedonia that appears to be in Balkan Gagauz Turkish. It's called "Mavrova," which is roughly the name of a village not in Macedonia, but rather in coastal Albania(!). The lyrics can be found in the top comment and sound slightly different from standard Turkish to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeysADlVIGY&app=desktop

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby księżycowy » 2019-02-10, 19:23

Are you going to ever get out of the Balkans, Vijay? :P

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-10, 19:47

Of course! Just once I go north of Serbia ;) Or alternatively, summer comes and I switch back to Africa or something instead :P

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby h34 » 2019-02-14, 17:37

(tt) A song called Тәрәзәләр ('Windows'), written by Анна Попова. The singer, Elvin Grey, is from the Republic of Bashkortostan (Russian Federation) and apparently most of his songs are in Russian or Bashkir, but this one is in Tatar. A Russian translation of the lyrics is added in the video description.

https://youtu.be/mdNe9nqpWf4

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-16, 6:13

The Solun-Voden dialect a.k.a. Lower Vardar dialect or Kukush-Voden dialect is a South Slavic language variety essentially straddling the border between northeastern Greece and southeastern Macedonia (or southeastern North Macedonia, if you prefer :P). It is variously considered a dialect of Macedonian or of Bulgarian. This is a video of a wedding identified in the video as Macedonian but taking place in Thessaloniki, or Solun as it's called in Macedonian. This variety is spoken there. The singing begins at about 16:40:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv_6jEQOAds&app=desktop

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-17, 5:51

This is another song from Greece but in some variety of Macedonian; I'm not sure which variety it's in especially since I can't tell where exactly in Greece it was filmed. The title and caption specifically use the word "Macedonian" to describe the language (and they clearly mean the Slavic language and not Macedonian Greek or anything like that), but I think the uploader is Greek, so I guess that's probably a good thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKmqbaPgNzc&app=desktop

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-22, 2:52

There is a variety of Albanian known as the Upper Reka variety, spoken in northwestern Macedonia, close to the border with Albania and perhaps including (part of) the Macedonian region of Reka. It is apparently classified as Central Gheg, like the variety spoken in Debar, but is also fairly divergent despite its proximity to the Albanian border. This is an Albanian song from the Reka region called "Reka e Epërme" by a group apparently called Grupi i Vajzave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4lOaBZ4iEw&app=desktop

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-03-09, 7:36

This is a song called "Çalın Davulları" that's apparently in the specific variety Turkish spoken in Thessaloniki in northern Greece. I'm not sure how close or different exactly it is from standard Turkish as spoken in Turkey especially since there are a lot of words in this song that I don't recognize at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfQM_AGvM10&app=desktop
Approximate lyrics: http://www.turkuler.com/sozler/turku_ca ... sagya.html

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-03-10, 20:58

This is another song in Turkish, this time from Kosovo. It's called "Ramizem" and is by an artist named Arif Şentürk. This also seems pretty close to Turkish as spoken in Turkey, although once again, I have no idea what some of the words in the song mean. I don't even know what the title means in this particular case! Here's a clip of the song anyway, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO0NH1338eE&app=desktop

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby h34 » 2019-03-14, 20:56

(cv) A Chuvash song called Телей пултăр пирĕнпе, performed by Натали Дмитриева. (I haven't found the lyrics or any other information yet.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-dLAMIoXyY

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-03-15, 6:26

Gorani is a South Slavic language variety spoken by the Gora people who are Muslim and live mainly in Kosovo but also in Serbia, Macedonia, and Albania as well as at least a few other countries (some of which are a bit further off, like Hungary). It has been variously classified as a dialect of Macedonian, a dialect of Serbian, a dialect of Bulgarian, and a Torlakian variety; apparently, the Gora people themselves consider their language to be closest to Macedonian. This is the lyric video of a Gorani song called "Gledaj Me Gledaj":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpeqPxly3c&app=desktop

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Re: Music in minority languages

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-03-17, 21:00

This is a song, or perhaps a clip of various songs, in the language of the Croat community living in Kosovo, also known in Serbo-Croatian/BCS as Janjevci. They apparently speak the Prizren-South Morava variety of BCS. I'm not sure whether the song(s) in this clip was/were actually performed in Kosovo, Croatia, or somewhere else (I got the impression it was performed in Croatia for some reason I no longer remember):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CseHt_mGZXY


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