Ludwig Whitby wrote:Booing Russians, including 16-year-olds. That's like totally a criticism of the Russian political elite and not like chauvinism. But you know, who cares. Fuck Russians.
Well, you have to admit Russia has pretty much said a much more severe 'fuck you' to homosexuals.
Sure. But so did Serbia to Albanians and Albanian Kosovo to Serbs and Croatia to Serbs and Serbia to Croats etc... There is a difference between politicians and ordinary people.
Varislintu wrote:Is it just because they're 16-year-old girls that it matters, or do you think it would have been equally wrong if the performer had been an adult? I think the age of the girls is actually the worst part of it, it can't have felt nice, and I hope they were prepped well enough before and after that they know it wasn't against them.
In my opinion, it is worse. They're minors. They can't even vote and they are being booed and being prevented from winning a singing contest because of something their government did.
Varislintu wrote:If the USA were to take part and they were booed after having once again done something cruel abroad, would you think that would be shocking as well? I don't think I'd be very outraged.
Yes. I differentiate between singers and politicians.
Varislintu wrote:I don't know, I just don't personally think booing is necessarily that bad, if done in moderation so it doesn't actually ruin someone's performance or impede the event. EDIT: And as long as the reasons can be traced back to something non-personal.
Booing someone on the basis of their ethnicity and nationality is bad.
Sol Invictus wrote:As I heard it was not the performance that was booed, but voting for them, there's a difference between offending sixteen year olds and not liking any chances of Russia hosting the next year's contest. Also I was told that Russian media were reporting that Russia ordered the hosts to get the audience in line, I imagine if that was actually attempted it didn't go down well with the audience. And anyways - how is it not tolerant? Russia most likely got boobed for its politics, not because people dislike Russians
So, those girls shouldn't win because of something their politicians did? This is a singing-contest, you know? It's not a government-policies contest.