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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby linguoboy » 2012-03-19, 21:06

JackFrost wrote:Oh, how I miss Mrs. Slocombe and her pussy double-entendres.

God, what an awful awful show.
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby Sol Invictus » 2012-03-19, 21:31

Sophie wrote:
Sol Invictus wrote:Reminds me an old British sitcom - It's pronounced Bouquet, not Bucket
If you mean "Keeping Up Appearances", it's not that old.

Well, not as old as Mrs. Slocombe's pussy, but I am starting to recognize distinctive characteristics in 90s TV shows, which means that enough time has passed not to consider them current

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Re: Ridiculous and weird surname

Postby MillMaths » 2012-03-22, 14:36

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Sophie wrote:
Sol Invictus wrote:Reminds me an old British sitcom - It's pronounced Bouquet, not Bucket
If you mean "Keeping Up Appearances", it's not that old.

Half the board wasn't yet born when production ceased!
So the definition of old here is "before half the board was born"? Just so I know.

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Re: Ridiculous and weird surname

Postby linguoboy » 2012-03-22, 16:43

Sophie wrote:So the definition of old here is "before half the board was born"? Just so I know.

What's considered "old" is very dependent on medium. TV shows age very quickly; when people talk about "new shows", they generally mean ones which have been introduced within the past year. I think it's quite reasonable to call anything that's been out of production for more than a decade "old". Some of the actors from KUA (e.g. Mary Millar, who played Rose) aren't even alive any more.
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby loqu » 2012-03-22, 17:18

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Dormouse559 wrote:Yet I still have fond memories of watching reruns on PBS.

And I have fond memories of watching Please Don't Eat the Daisies on UHF. Doesn't somehow make that programme not "old".

Was that the kind of sitcom Lenguas was so proud of watching?

And does all this discussion mean Friends is now old? OMG I'M ANCIENT. Draven is right.
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby linguoboy » 2012-03-22, 17:27

loqu wrote:And does all this discussion mean Friends is now old? OMG I'M ANCIENT. Draven is right.

And remember, a decade in the wider world is like twice that in gay years.
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby loqu » 2012-03-22, 17:54

Which means I'm straight thin but gay fat, and straight young but gay old.
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby Sol Invictus » 2012-03-23, 4:01

loqu wrote:
linguoboy wrote:And does all this discussion mean Friends is now old? OMG I'M ANCIENT. Draven is right.

About a month ago:
Me: OMG, Friends how the hell can anyone find that funny?
My mom: It is an old show, you know, what was funny then is not funny now
Me:Not THAT old!

And Friends started to air in mid-90s (and ended just in 2004), when Keeping up Appearances ended. Let's say that 80s are old, but 90s are not that old, but I still won't say "Reminds me of not THAT old British sitcom" :D

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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby linguoboy » 2012-03-23, 12:32

loqu wrote:Which means I'm straight thin but gay fat, and straight young but gay old.

And I'm twink-fat and twink-old, but bear-skinny and -young. Go me!
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Postby JackFrost » 2012-03-23, 19:14

linguoboy wrote:
loqu wrote:Which means I'm straight thin but gay fat, and straight young but gay old.

And I'm twink-fat and twink-old, but bear-skinny and -young. Go me!

o,O

I don't even know how to describe myself in those silly terms.

Twink-old, twink-skinny...

Yeah, I think that works (27 years old looking 21-22, 135 lbs, and no hair on main part of the unshaven body).

Or not?

Clearly I'm not going to do well if I ever get Grindr. ._.
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby hindupridemn » 2012-03-25, 1:39

My first and last name together sound like a porn star when you think about it.

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Postby Hunef » 2012-03-25, 3:05

hindupridemn wrote:My first and last name together sound like a porn star when you think about it.
You don't need a stage name, then. :whistle:
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby lumiel » 2012-03-26, 19:52

My name is very Finnish and still rare at the same time. Sometimes people react in a funny way when they hear my surname, though. At least it doesn't end in your typical -nen or -lA...
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby Aleco » 2012-03-26, 20:31

My last name is unique because my grandparents changed our last name from a somewhat common one (Li) to a non-existant (as a name) synonym.

(Speaking of which, two Norwegian names look pretty Chinese: Wang and Li - this led me to believe that Vera Wang was Norwegian for ages...)
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby linguoboy » 2012-03-26, 20:39

Once during a job interview, I was taken aback to find that the "Mr Stone" I was scheduled to speak to was Chinese. Turns out his father's surname was originally 石 Shí, which literally means "stone", and that his father had anglicised it after relocating to the US.

I shouldn't have been so surprised. After all, I sinified my name when I went abroad to China. (And probably for much the same reason--it's nearly impossible for Chinese-speakers to spell and pronounce my Germanic surname properly. My personal cards have both versions and there was often a genuine expression of relief on their faces when I drew their attention to the Chinese version.)
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby Massimiliano B » 2012-03-27, 10:37

In Italian there is this surname: "Mastronzo". The word "ma" means "but", and "stronzo" means
"turd".
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby maxd.ijn » 2012-04-13, 3:55

My last surname is a mistery for me. Archapa (originaly Alchapa) came from my Spanish great-grandfather but it doesn't seem to be Spanish. The only information I have is that he had mourish ancestors, which makes me think this surname has an arabic root, being the Al- prefix one strong reason to suspect that it's really arabian. :hmm:

And if you search for it on the web, you'll only find my close relatives. So I have no idea from where it really came and what it means!
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby linguoboy » 2012-04-13, 4:19

maxd.ijn wrote:My last surname is a mistery for me. Archapa (originaly Alchapa) came from my Spanish great-grandfather but it doesn't seem to be Spanish. The only information I have is that he had mourish ancestors, which makes me think this surname has an arabic root, being the Al- prefix one strong reason to suspect that it's really arabian.

You can't say that Al- element is a "prefix" until you've established that the rest of the word represents a root of its own. Otherwise there's nothing to prevent you from abstracting nonexistent "Arabian" roots like "tamira" from Altamira and "paca" from alpaca.

I doubt the name is Moorish in origin given that North African Arabic lacks both ch and p. How do you know that Alchapa is the "original" form in any case?
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby maxd.ijn » 2012-04-13, 4:58

linguoboy wrote:
maxd.ijn wrote:My last surname is a mistery for me. Archapa (originaly Alchapa) came from my Spanish great-grandfather but it doesn't seem to be Spanish. The only information I have is that he had mourish ancestors, which makes me think this surname has an arabic root, being the Al- prefix one strong reason to suspect that it's really arabian.

You can't say that Al- element is a "prefix" until you've established that the rest of the word represents a root of its own. Otherwise there's nothing to prevent you from abstracting nonexistent "Arabian" roots like "tamira" from Altamira and "paca" from alpaca.

I doubt the name is Moorish in origin given that North African Arabic lacks both ch and p. How do you know that Alchapa is the "original" form in any case?


My arabic lessons didn't go further than the alphabet. Sorry for the mistake. :oops:

I say the "original" form is Alchapa because it's on my great-grandfather birth certificate and his father also had it written in the same way. This R appeared in my grandfather's surname.

I had and idea that it lacks the ch and p, but it was the farthest I could go trying to guess from where it came... :hmm:
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Re: ridiculous and weird surname

Postby Nukalurk » 2012-04-13, 7:57

- (Renate) Judenfeind => enemy of Jews
- (Adolf) Führer => I doubt you need a translation. :P
- Ali Lakuhi => Think of Bavarian pronunciation, and the whole name turns into a little lila cow - which is why this guy faced problems when wanting to order a computer. :mrgreen:
- (Hans) Bauernfeind => enemy of peasants...is a peasant himself

There are lots of funny names! Also the combination with their professions can be very funny like "Dr. Stecher" (one of the many slang terms for a guy who loves to have sex with many women) actually is a gynaecologist.
Or Dr. Tod (death) is a surgeon! :mrgreen:


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