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Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2016-10-11, 18:20
by księżycowy
I've played the first game (though never completed it, yet), but never watch the anime yet. It's on the "get to later" list.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2016-10-11, 22:51
by Osias
I'm still watching Sidonia No Kishi, I watch it slowly because I don't want it to end.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2016-10-12, 0:21
by Meera
księżycowy wrote:I've played the first game (though never completed it, yet), but never watch the anime yet. It's on the "get to later" list.
It is quite weird but good to watch for Halloween.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2016-10-12, 7:51
by sandrodream
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2016-10-18, 21:17
by md0
Is it just me or anime this year got very heavy-handed with their "message"?
What mainly made me think about this is DAYS. Fifteen episodes of trying to convince us that the protagonist inspires everyone who plays football with/against him because of his passion to belong in a team despite him not showing any interest in trying to learn how to play the game. Never mind that for the whole season all he does is to feel guilty about being a dead weight to the team, and solely focusing on training to be able to run and doesn't give a shit for even learning what direction the opposing team's goal is at, his teammates openly say they are certain this guy is going to be the next captain of the team because of reasons.
I know sports anime were always feel-good, root-for-the-underdog, zero-to-hero stories, but some of them care to flesh out the characters (Haikyuu is heavy on characterisation), and others actually deliver on the action side of things (Kuroko's Basket for one). Here, it's basically little Tsuku-chan wants to have friends, so he enters highschool football taking the position of constantly-catching-his-breath-centre-forward and everyone is motivated by his sense of guilt when the team loses any match he plays in. How about you appreciate his effort and dedication by teaching him how to shoot? All the practice he ever does is to go jogging.
But it's not just sports anime. This Udon no Kuni no Kiniro Kemari from episode 1 sets itself up as a manic pixie dream tanuki child story. I don't know if it's going to surprise us and subvert what is clearly is spelt out in the first episode (recently orhpaned 30-year old man decides to stop running away from his past and returns to hometown to take over the family business and win the trust of the townspeople he used to underestimate), but somehow I don't think it will.
Inno, it annoys me when the plot tries so hard and achieves nothing. Not all anime have to take the viewer through an emotional psychological journey if they don't have the story to do that. There's a few light-hearted anime that almost take pride in being shallow and I'd rate them higher that those two.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-01-07, 20:01
by Meera
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-01-07, 21:08
by md0
Something that I will certainly recognise to YoI is that
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it managed to stay clear from most if not all problematic yaoi tropes (although it could really do without the gratuitous fanservice by that Swiss figure skater).
I think we can even say that YoI is the first non-yaoi that had male same-sex couple as the protagonists.
Now, for the past few days I was in my hometown for the winter break, and having nothing much to do, I started a new anime. I watched the first season of
Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai (2012), which is about
this phenomenon - basically teenagers' response to anxiety manifesting as delusions of magical powers, and which has been turned into an anime trope in itself (like agoraphobia). And because I find it hard to pick what goes under spoilers and what not, I'm putting the whole thing:
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At the penultimate episode I was ready to praise this anime for a wonderful deconstruction of chūnibyō, and generally being a good romance anime without the hyperbole and most of the problematic cliches that you expect in anime.
The boy who recently recovered from his delusions meets the girl who's still living them out. He's awkward about how to interact with her because he's both out of this mindset now and he finds the delusions embarrassing, but also he understands that she needs help.
For me that part was very important, because ever since I managed to break the loop of my own depression, I haven't found how to help my own peers who are where I used to be emotionally. It's not enough to tell them that there is something in the other side of what they are experiencing as an abyss.
And they also make the very real mistake of entering a relationship as a coping mechanism for her trauma.
And indeed, what starts as a romcom turns into a deconstruction. The girl's chūnibyō is uncovered a reaction to the unexpected death of a parent, and how the rest of her family failed to support her effectively when she needed to mourn for her loss.
And at the penultimate episode the couple decide to have the serious discussion without using their delusions of super powers as a proxy. Perhaps a little too quickly, she starts making steps towards accepting her loss, dealing with her depression, and trying to build herself up again.
If only the anime just ended there. But no. There was one more episode, in which the boy realises that by overcoming her chūnibyō, the girl would move away from him and they would have to end or re-base their relationship in new terms. And boohoo, the protagonist who for 11 episodes prior to this one was actually not an asshole decides that he wants the girl after all, plot progress be damned. When he learns that she decided to move back with her family, he rides his bike to the next prefecture, climbs up her balcony, tells her that all her delusions have been real all along and they elope. His excuse to her family is that people all mourn in different ways and her delusions are her way and they should accept that. Which would be a valid plotline to develop if that wasn't the last episode, and if it wasn't there solely for him to get back together with the girl.
They even then unveil that her imagined persona was inspired by his own former chūnibyō lore, that she happened to overhear in a contrived coincidence years before they actually met.
Oh fuck off. One episode of concentrated shoujo cheesiness was enough to ruin this anime for me. Now I noticed there's even a second season where they are still together and she is still going through chūnibyō. And on one hand, I really want to know if they manage to rebase their relationship on healthy grounds after all, but on the other hand I am almost sure I would be disappointed, and it's easier to forget about 1 terrible episode than to erase an entire season from my memory.
If I was writing this anime. I would end season 1 with them parting ways, heartbroken as they might both be (watching the anime does make you want to see them together, even though you know it's harmful - that makes it very real). If a Season 2 had to happen, it could perhaps focus on the boy working out his feelings in turn. Understanding the importance of clean breaks. There could still even be a happy ending if that's necessary, perhaps with them becoming professional actors and meeting again some years into the future (another ex-chūnibyō side-character takes up acting as a way to build herself up again).
I don't know. I was disappointed. A cheesy happy ending is worse than a sad, open ending. That's almost an obvious thing to say.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-01-07, 23:05
by księżycowy
It's been a good year, maybe even more, since I've seen Chunibyou (I'll call it that for the sake of shortening it), and I have to say that I liked it. Cheesiness and all. However, I think I have to agree on your ending complaint. Idk, it was nice and all, but I could see a sad ending very easily fitting into the show. Then again, it seemed more like they were always gunning for the comedy more than anything else. At least thats how I always saw it.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-01-08, 8:41
by md0
I think it falls in the same category as the last two anime I reviewed in this thread: they are animes who attempt to deliver more than they can handle. It could stay a good comedy if they didn't invest so heavily in the characters background.
Lately I compare everything to Saiki Kusuo no Sainan (best anime in a while), but other examples exist. Those are comedies who know very well they are comedies. They are pretty upfront about the lack of plot progression and the near-flat characters. Sainan didn't left me feeling betrayed for investing emotionally in the character growth of the protagonist. There no plot progression in Sainan.
But what has to be said is that if I didn't like Chūnibyō, I wouldn't be so upset about the ending, I would just move on.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-01-08, 11:12
by księżycowy
md0 wrote:I think it falls in the same category as the last two anime I reviewed in this thread: they are animes who attempt to deliver more than they can handle.
I think can see that. Ultimately I'd need to re-watch it though before I could be sure. But from what I remember, I am inclined to agree. However, I don't think it was because of the character investment. Idk...
Lately I compare everything to Saiki Kusuo no Sainan (best anime in a while), but other examples exist. Those are comedies who know very well they are comedies. They are pretty upfront about the lack of plot progression and the near-flat characters. Sainan didn't left me feeling betrayed for investing emotionally in the character growth of the protagonist. There no plot progression in Sainan.
Can't say I've seen Saiki Kusuo no Sainan. From a quick wikipedia trip though, it seems like it would be up my alley.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-01-19, 12:31
by md0
The quality of anime subtitles gets worse by the year
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Now "old man" is also an untranslatable culture-specific word
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-01-19, 12:44
by Osias
There are even some suffixes like "-chan" that are kind of untranslatable on English but would pass very well as "-inho" in Portuguese but they don't even try.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-02-02, 13:57
by księżycowy
It's been a little while since I've posted here and updated my viewing list. (Not to mention doing the same on MyAnimeList
)
I can't even remember what I just recently finished...
Currently I'm watching:
Gabriel Dropout
Bungo Stray Dogs
Ms Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
Konosuba
So far they are all good.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-02-20, 16:03
by Meera
I started watching Black Butler again.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-02-21, 2:46
by dEhiN
I started watching Familiar of Zero which I think is Zero no Tsukaima in Japanese.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-02-21, 12:52
by księżycowy
I just finish Bungo Stray Dogs a few days ago. That was a pretty good show. I did feel (which is often the case, it seems) that the final fight was a bit rushed (or maybe just not daunting enough, idk
), but it was still quite good. I'm hoping they do another 25 episodes.
I can't wait for Attack on Titan to start it's new season. I might have to refresh my memory a bit on last season too.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-02-27, 11:12
by md0
Regarding the anime
TRICKSTER:
how is
this still a thing?
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-05-31, 10:01
by md0
For your fix of ganbatte this season, KABUKIBU is nice.
This time it's about a group of highschool students trying to bring kabuki theatre to a contemporary audience.
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-06-30, 11:43
by sandrodream
Goldrake ufo Robot from italy Amazing memories 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLT3vUW5HHs
Re: The Anime Thread
Posted: 2017-07-25, 15:12
by Meera
AOT season 2 was epic. I loved it.
I am currently watching season 2 of Boko No Hero Academia and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid. Also watched episode one of Gamers.