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Postby NulNuk » 2002-08-09, 17:27

it is not coinsidense , this is the translation !
Haim in Spanish is Jaime (in Spanish Haim is writed Jaim )
Jaim=Jaime ,that is the official translation of the name ,
and Jacek and Jake is defenetly not the same as , Jaim and Jaime !!!!!
as you can see Jaim and Jaime are practicly the same ,and the book
that is used for translating names ,translate names ,it is not a book
that propous alternatives for forenge names ,its ONLY translate Hebrew
names from and into Hebrew ,and the ppl behind this book are not just
amateurs with a hobby, they learn those things in University !!!

Jaim=Jaime , Yakob=Jakobo ,it is so hard to see it??????

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Postby Fenek » 2002-08-09, 22:33

NulNuk wrote:Jaim=Jaime , Yakob=Jakobo ,it is so hard to see it??????


It is very easy to see as far as someone takes apparent for real, illogically bases his judgement on a single fact and jumps into final conclusions without any scientific inquiry.

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Postby NulNuk » 2002-08-10, 6:31

It is very easy to see as far as someone takes apparent for real, illogically bases his judgement on a single fact and jumps into final conclusions without any scientific inquiry


so, where exactly is your "scientific inquiry"? , I did talled you mine ,and is
a very strong one ,you show me the link to an amateur site ,that is not
very scientific , I`m telling you thats the official translation as univercity
ppl see it in Israel ,ppl that had than a huge work ,only to translate any
Hebrew name form Hebrew to any lenguage ,and from any lenguage
to Hebrew ,and that was their work ,not a sided hobby .

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Postby Fenek » 2002-08-10, 10:39

I did not present any scientific inquiry (and I didn't say that I had done). Neither did you. You just said that "James" is translated into Hebrew as "Haim" and you repeat it over and over, as if repeating strengthened your argument. Well, if you find that a strong argument, then I could say that "James" is translated into Polish as "Jakub" by all scientists and writers and that it proves that "James" and "Jakub" ("Jacob") are the same name. But in fact the conclusions you draw are illogical - the fact that "James" is translated into Hebrew as "Haim" does not imply that "James" comes from "Haim", nor does it even imply that "Haim" and "James" have the same origin. You base your opinion on a very irrelevant evidence. By the way, you make the same error over and over, not only in this discussion. If you want to speak about origins of a word, you should examine the origins of the word. And you never do it. You just compare the present forms of the word existing in different languages. And this is a very fallacious method - consider the "Jack"/"Jacek" case.

Do you know the answers to the following questions?
1. How is the name of Jacob (Ezav's brother) translated into Latin in Vulgata?
2. Where does the form "James" come from? England or Scotland?
3. When did the written "James" form appear for the first time?
4. Are there any earlier forms of the name "James" on the British Islands?
I'd bet you don't know the answers. Well, if you had made any scientific inquiry, you would.

But you did not make any scientific inquiry. You didn't even come up with any theory about the "James" name's development. You claim that "James" and "Jaime" come from "Haim". But how did it happen that "H" transformed into "J"? This is very mysterious. In fact, Spanish "J" sounds similar to "H", but this is a peculiar Spanish feature that developed quite late. What about English "James"? "J" never sounded like "H" in English, so how could it be that "Haim" was written as "James"? In my opinion, you shuld make it clear for us in order to attach any measure of likeliness to your statement.

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Postby Abavagada » 2002-08-10, 14:17

I wish I could post something fantastic about the Norwegian meaning of my real name, Erik, but I don't know any.

Honestly, "Erik" was the name of the cigar my father was smoking when I was born, so that's what I was named after.

Much more interesting is my online name and alter-ego, Abavagada. That is the first 5 letters of the Russian alphabet [A Ba Va Ga Da] and came into being when me and another guy were studying Russian on our own back in High School. We thought that just saying the letters sounded like words, so we created "Abavagada" and "Yehyojezaee". We would yell these out to each other in the halls between classes. So the word "Abavagada" always stuck.

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Postby Junesun » 2002-08-10, 16:18

Erik derives from Old Norse. It means "powerful" or "ever-ruling".

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Postby Francy » 2002-08-10, 20:11

I find your name lovely Erik, it's like the one of a strong Viking!!!! I can see you with blonde (attached) traces with a big pint of beer in your hand yelling hiahlidah!!!! (I don't know how to write it properly but it should be cheers in Welsh...)

Weldal.... I was thinking about your mum's surname... in my mother's hometown that surname is pretty popular where does she come from exactly?
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Postby MiRi » 2002-08-12, 18:51

Hi,

my real name is Michaela, which is the female form of Michael. The name comes from Hebrew and it means 'who is (like) god'
I would like to see the name written in Hebrew, so maybe NulNuk could write it down here ?

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Postby NulNuk » 2002-08-13, 0:48

in Hebrew actually you say Michal ,not Michaela ,but is the same .
this is who to write it :

Michael : מיכאל
Michal : מיכל
Michaela : מיכאלה


Mi = who , ka = like ,El =god , who (is ) like god ? (ka and cha is writed
the same in Hebrew " כ " ), but the meaning is not "who is
like god" , but "who like god .....? " ,the "is" is added in order to try and
put the whole meaning of the sentense on the name alone, but the name
alone ,as a sentense ,it is just a part of the question .
who is like god = mi kmo el ,or , mi u kmo el , ka allso means like ,but
in a diferent way ,"ka" is a word used when comparing , "kmo" is more like
a general way to say "like" .(like what I just writed ,can be writed with
"kmo" but not with "ka" ).

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Postby sova » 2002-08-13, 16:45

As to my name, it comes from Scandinavian "Helga"( a saint, comes back to the Dutch "heilige"), and it has been russified into Olga. My last name is Grishina, which means one of my predators called Grisha, Grigory.

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Postby Psi-Lord » 2002-08-18, 18:35

"Names" is always an interesting topic—even if it leads so some heated discussions off an on. :) It's often so hard to be sure about the literal meaning of them—especially surnames!...

Well, as for me, my full name is "Marcel José Querubini Landim":

Marcel = French, equivalente to Portuguese "Marcelo", from Latin "Marcellus", also related to Mars (the god of war, not the planet :) ), just like "Marcus", "Marcius" etc. I was given such a name both because my mum was very fond of a famous basketball player called Marcel and because a friend of hers also named her son like that, and my mum thought it was a good idea. It's not a very good name to get a nickname from, but all my friends call me "Cell" (yes, double "L"—a long story...), and I do like it. 8)

José = the same as the English "Joseph", coming from Hebrew. I don't know the exact meaning, but according to what I've read, it's related to adding, increasing, tagging, enlarging etc. (NulNuk can probably be more precise here.) I got that as a second name for two reasons... When my mother was pregnant, my grandmother used to pray for St. Joseph for everything to be alright with us, and then, completely unexpectadly, I ended up being born on St. Joseph's Day (19th March). Don't ever call me "Zé" though, as I hate it to death!... :!:

Querubini = a misspelling of the original "Cherubini", which is Italian (related to the class of angels known as cherubs)—my mum's surname. It's not a common surname here in Brazil, and I've never heard of any Italians that had it either. I wonder whether any of my ancestors was a sculptor of religious statues (such as Toni, for those who are watching "Esperança" :) ), which would be a possible origin of the surname.

Landim = my father's surname, mystery of mysteries. No one in my father's family has got a single clue about its origin and/or meaning. The best theories I've heard so far is that it's possibly Dutch (and that it might be spelt "Landin", as some actually are), which would make sense—it's a more or less common surname in Northeastern Brazil, especially in the area the Dutch have once invaded in the past, and I know my father's ancestors came to Southeastern Brazil from up North/Northeast.

Hmmm, do I ever get to be more concise? :oops:

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Postby Francy » 2002-08-18, 19:07

Cherubini is a very common name here, particularly in Tuscany. You could have Tuscan origins!!! We also have a very famous singer whose name is Lonrenzo Cherubini
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Postby Psi-Lord » 2002-08-18, 19:36

Francy wrote:Cherubini is a very common name here, particularly in Tuscany. You could have Tuscan origins!!! We also have a very famous singer whose name is Lonrenzo Cherubini

Francy, your saying that has really made my day! :) All I could tell about the branch of the family that stayed in Italy (my great-great-grandparents arrived in Brazil in the first years of the 20th century—my great-grandfather was 4 years-old) is that my grandfather had an uncle and some cousins living in a small village somewhere around Pistoia, but they disappeared during the World War II and my grandfather never heard from them again. I once even tried to write to any descendants of them using the address my grandfather had, but the letter was returned, saying the the name of the village had been changed years ago and that no Cherubini family had been found. I then wrote to the "Spett.le Ufficio Anagrafe, Palazzo Comunale" of the village using the information I had, but I was asked for some papers I ended up never finding the time to send to them, and so, that was all I could get.

Now you've mentioned Tuscany and, since I'm not really familiar with Italian geography, I decided to look it up on a map and, surprise to me—that's where Pistoia is! :) So you've really given me a very important, substantial clue. Thanks a lot! I've got a pen friend in the province of Alessandria (Piedmont), and I used to have one in Rome, and they said they didn't known anyone named Cherubini by the time we made friends. :( That's also why I'm so thrilled now. :) It's a problem for many of my friends to find out exactly where their families have come from, especially those that have also come from Italy—my grandfather's mother was a Borsoni, and that's another surname we never got to find anything about at all... It's kind of sad not to be able to find more about your own blood.

Hmm, before I get any more offtopic here (and sorry for that), might I ask you where in Italy you're from, Francy?

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Postby levi » 2002-08-18, 20:57

i'm pretty sure that my name, levi, is hebrew and means "joined in harmony".

nulnuk, if you don't mind, i'd love to see my name in hebrew... :D

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Postby NulNuk » 2002-08-19, 15:06

i'm pretty sure that my name, levi, is hebrew and means "joined in harmony".

nulnuk, if you don't mind, i'd love to see my name in hebrew...


Levi means "companion " /"escort" ,the Levies were those who accompanied (?)
the Cohens (the jewish prist ) and Help them in the temple .
(the name is though very old ,it may have allso another meaning in
Sumerian-Hebrew ,but I really dont think so ).

in Hebrew you write your name like this : " לוי "


José = the same as the English "Joseph", coming from Hebrew. I don't know the exact meaning, but according to what I've read, it's related to adding, increasing, tagging, enlarging etc. (NulNuk can probably be more precise here.) I got that as a second name for two reasons... When my mother was pregnant, my grandmother used to pray for St. Joseph for everything to be alright with us, and then, completely unexpectadly, I ended up being born on St. Joseph's Day (19th March). Don't ever call me "Zé" though, as I hate it to death!...


Jose= Yosy in Hebrew ,there are two teories about this name ,one says
Yosy is a name for its own ,and it has no know meaning because it comes
from Sumerian-Hebrew ,and the most popular says that Yosy is a short
way of Yosef ,wich in this way have no meaning ,but it is a diformation
of the word " will add " ( " yosif " ) in Hebrew .
(in English bay the way I heard the name " Josie " more then ones ,so it
can be maybe the English way of "Yosy " ,but I dont know ).

Yosy = " יוסי "
Yosef = " יוסף
(and "yosif" = " יוסיף " )

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Postby Emandir » 2002-11-26, 15:09

Well, though I come late, I'd like to bring my stone to your building :

James, wich is Jacques in french, actually comes from Yaqov in hebrew, wich was the first name of Israel. Haim didn't become, as far as I now, a european name.

Thiago should come from Santiago in spanish, wich is actually Sant Yago, Saint Jacques in french, Saint James in english. I didn't know it was a name : strange how from Sant-yago it becomes again t-yago!!!

For my personal names :
Jean come from hebrew Yehochanan, or Yochanan, wich means 'God give' or 'God is mercyful' (depends on the books I've read)
Luc is said to come from latin 'lux', light, but I wonder, Saint Luke the apostle being Greek, whether it doesn't come from 'lukos', wolf ?
My second name is Rodolph, my godfather's name (in fact Rodolfo, for he was italian)and mean, as it has been said here, 'glory-wolf'.
For my family name, it is Bengler. We've always been told it came from Germany, but noone could ever tell what it means : maybe someone here can help :D

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Hi :O)
my name, Marieke [ma:ri:ke], is actually dutch, and it is a deminotive form of Maria or hebrew Myriam, so it means little Maria. Nobody knows actuallt what "Maria" means. I have a dictionary about the origin of names and it says the meaning is not clear. When I looked "Maria" up in an italian name dictionary, it said the meaning was similar to latin "Domina", but I guess they had to write that because of the church.
My last name, Martin, derives from Saint Martin, not so spectacular :O)
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Postby Morris » 2002-11-26, 17:10

I'm not sure if my parents knew anything about the etymology of my name, but it looks like I have my work cut out for me :)

My given (first) name:
CHRISTOPHER m English
Pronounced: KRIS-to-fur
Means "bearing Christ", derived from Late Greek Christos combined with pherein "to bear, to carry". Christopher was the legendary saint who carried the young Jesus across a river. He is the patron saint of travellers. Another famous bearer was Christopher Columbus, the explorer who reached the West Indies in the 15th century.


and my family name:
MORRIS m English
Pronounced: MOR-is
Medieval form of MAURICE
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MAURICE m English, French
Pronounced: mor-EES
From the Roman name Mauricius, which derives from MAURUS. Saint Maurice was a Christian Roman soldier from Egypt. He and the other Christians in his legion were supposedly massacred by emperor Maximian for refusing to worship Roman gods. Thus, he is the patron saint of infantry soldiers. Also, Maurice of Nassau, the prince of Orange, was a military commander from the Netherlands who helped establish the Dutch Republic.


I couldn't find anything for my 2nd given name, "Spalding." It was my mother's family name, and as far as I know it's of English origins.
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Postby Psi-Lord » 2002-11-26, 19:30

Emandir wrote:Luc is said to come from latin 'lux', light, but I wonder, Saint Luke the apostle being Greek, whether it doesn't come from 'lukos', wolf ?

Jean-Luc, couldn't it also come from Greek 'Loukas' = 'from Lucania'? That's the etymology our Latin teacher had given us by a time everyone started making questions about their names.

But then, I guess it's not unusual to find different sources giving different origins... I've once even read there was a (tiny) possibility Tiago had come from Latin 'Didascus' < Greek 'didache' = 'teaching' (though it was rather unlikely, hehehe... :wink:). Isn't Diego a short form of Santiago as well?
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Postby darkina » 2002-11-26, 20:19

I see it's an old topic but i couldn't help reading it: i love talking about names, my mum had a little book about names when she was deciding the name for my brother, and i read it thousands of times. If i remember, it said that the name Elisabeth comes from hebrew and means something like 'God is great'...or i dont remember what else...I think names with 'El' inside are about God, as i think El=God (i was young but i guessed that readign the book.) Shame i don't even have a proper name as my name is not Elisabeth but just Elisa. I don't like it, it's half a name and it's far too sweet.

But i have two great news for Psi-Lord
1-I was born on the 19th March too!!! 8)
2- About the surname Cherubini, I think it's rather popular in the whole Italy, as the singer Francy mentioned is from Rome, while I've also heard this surname many times in the area where i live (veneto, in the north-east). Actually (thrilling news?) it's my grandmother's surname! (so are we almost relatives?;))
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