What song are you listening to right now? 3

[Osias]

https://youtu.be/98NZXcarUiw

[h34]

Krokstav-Emne by Moddi
https://youtu.be/_lWaeaMo2D0

[Osias]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV--2ysknlk

[aaakknu]

https://youtu.be/dgM7IcSIfq4

[aaakknu]

https://youtu.be/BZkkPwfFt6E

[azhong]

I read one of Naava's posts in the thread Best Music Vedios you have seen, where she mentioned about the Sapmi(?) people. I knew nothing about it and spent some time googling it for fun this morning, for a cultural learning. Sapmi is actually a very old premitive people in Europe; they spread in the area near the northern pole.

Now, their misic. Yoik, or joik, is the name of traditional songs of the Sapmi people.
Traditional yoiks, I guess:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2_gnoljjBW8

A traditional yoik being sung by a tour guide, I guess:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-6edUx1EDdo

And then modern compositions, I guess, with the features of yoik added:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aPqKAuzo0tk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PL9_INg9u-E

[Naava]

I read one of Naava's posts in the thread Best Music Vedios you have seen, where she mentioned about the Sapmi(?) people. I knew nothing about it and spent some time googling it for fun this morning, for a cultural learning. Sapmi is actually a very old premitive people in Europe; they spread in the area near the northern pole.

Sápmi is the land they traditionally lived in*, stretching across Northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Russia. I think the Arctic Circle or the Arctic (region) might be a better description than North Pole:

This is Sápmi:

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This is the Arctic Circle:

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The people are called Sámi (also spelt as Sami or Saami) and the languages are also called Sámi. There are about ten Sámi languages in total, depending on how you count them. Northern Sámi is the largest and the one you're most likely to encounter. They belong to the Uralic family tree and as such are distant cousins to Finnish, Meänkieli, and Kven language that are spoken in and near Sápmi. (Sámi languages and Finnish, Meänkieli and Kven aren't mutually intelligible, but you can recognise some words if you know to look for them: e.g. muorji, beaivi, jávri vs. marja, päivä, järvi. I'm pointing this out because this is a language forum, so I thought you might be interested to hear things like these.)

* I'd say majority of the Sámi still live within Sápmi, but of course they're free to move wherever they wish to (which they do), so I hope you won't think they only live in Sápmi.

Also, a warning: if you read more about Sámi and Sápmi, you might sometimes see people use Lapland for Sápmi and Lappish for the languages and the people. These are old terms, and they're considered offensive nowadays. Note though that there is a Finnish region that is also called Lapland. It overlaps with Sápmi, but is not the same thing:

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It'd also be less offensive if you avoided calling anyone (Sámi or not) 'primitive'. It has bad connotations - it sounds like you're saying they're backwards or not yet as advanced as humans as yourself. It's also kinda incorrect term here even if you really meant to say so, since Sámi live similar lives as everyone else in Scandinavia, Finland, and Russia: they've got 9-5 jobs, mortgages and student loans to pay, modern houses, Western style clothing etc. etc. what you'd expect to see in any Western country. Reindeer husbandry is a traditional livelihood that is still practised by many Sámi, but it's not the only job available nor is it done the exact same way as 200 years ago (they e.g. use snowmobiles). There are also some who make and sell duodji or traditional Sámi handicraft, and many Sámi like to wear their traditional accessories and clothes - but that doesn't make anyone primitive.

I think the word you were looking for would be ancient or indigenous. They've certainly lived in Sápmi (and also areas that nowadays aren't part of Sápmi) for centuries before the current states were born.

In case you'd like to learn more, I've myself enjoyed this blog! The translations of Ina Omma's posts are especially interesting IMO, since you can hear a Sámi woman speak of her own experiences and what it is like to be Sámi today instead of reading more formal descriptions of the culture etc.

Yoik, or joik, is the name of traditional songs of the Sapmi people.

I really like joiks! The traditional ones were sung without background music, but especially Nils-Aslak Valkeapää (who you should look up if you haven't already, he was a cool guy) started to add (modern) instruments to joiking. If you want to listen to more, Angelin tytöt (later Angelit) were really popular some decades ago. One of the band members has sometimes performed with her daughter Hildá Länsman, who is also an artist worth listening to. There's also Sofia Jannok who you might like, although I think her music is starting to get further away from traditional joik than Angelit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vyDQhTIicY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUle-k5rJ6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUKoKNaEMyc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyA64m_p3PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGc7c8U2aps

Did I get a bit carried away with this post? Yes. Do I have any regrets? Nah.

[azhong]

Thank you again, Naava, for your nice, thorough introduction to Sami people and the knowledge related to them. Also, thank you for your help on my English. I didn't know "premitive" has that connotation. After your explanation, it's obvious the Lapland region in Finland is named so just because it was a region where Sami lived, I guess?

I don't want to carry the thread off too much, either. So, back to the theme of the thread, the song I'll introduce now came to my mind when I was listening to Sami's joiks this morning. It's from my place Taiwan, also from an ancient people. It was once used in the Olympic opening ceremony(?) in 1996.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHqBhRGGPbQ

[Naava]

Thank you again, Naava, for your nice, thorough introduction to Sami people and the knowledge related to them. Also, thank you for your help on my English. I didn't know "premitive" has that connotation. After your explanation, it's obvious the Lapland region in Finland is named so just because it was a region where Sami lived, I guess?

Sorry that I didn't reply to you sooner! I didn't know the answer right away, so I did some googling, thought I'd write to you when I have more time... And then almost forgot I hadn't done it yet.

So, the history of Lappi (the Finnish name for Lapland) is a mystery. Some say it comes from Finnish lape or Proto-Finnic *lappɜ, 'a periphery', since Lappi was rather far away from the early Finnish settlements. Others have debunked this theory because lape ends in -e whereas Lappi has -i. If these words were connected, Lappi should be declined as Lappi : Lapen, not as Lappi : Lapin like we do.

Some sources say it could be a Swedish loan word, but I also found a source that said Swedes claim they got it from Finnish!

One source said it could be an endonym of some small group of Sámi people. It was not said where this group would have lived, nor were there any other arguments than that "some people say so".

Moreover, it is argued that the term lappalainen originally referred to anyone who had a non-settled lifestyle, practised hunting, or lived outside villages or towns. It was not said if these people were named after Lappi or if Lappi was named after them, or where either name comes from.

Summary: there are theories, but nobody knows anything for sure. Lappi (the region) might have been named after Sámi people or it might have meant "a periphery". It's also possible that Lappi was named after people who lived there and practised hunting or had otherwise nomadic lifestyle, regarless of their ethnicity.

[h34]

‘Hidden Parks’ by Pia Fraus, remixed by Picnic from Estonia:
https://youtu.be/8sLgvXhM9pg

[h34]

Patīk man šī zemīte by Iļģi from Latvia:
https://youtu.be/5Gy3kqSEnAw

[Antea]

https://youtu.be/NS557ansybY

[weston12]

I am listening to a Kabuki theatre performance which Japanese old traditional art performance shared by UNESCO. The performers present different characters by wearing specific costumes and masks. Some of them are named, hannya, joker, etc.
https://youtu.be/67-bgSFJiKc

[h34]

Зеркальный шар by Света Бень and Галя Чикис:
https://youtu.be/yHbcNbsT-Fo

[azhong]

The (fixed?) encore piece for New Year's concerts in Vienna: Radetzky March. I wish it'll energize you.
Happy new year!
https://youtu.be/CsJ5WJ2SQh0

[h34]

З Новим роком і Рождеством! by Кузьма Скрябін
https://youtu.be/JSneFBnMLPo

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Lyrics (source: pisni.ua)

Нехай залишаться в старому році
Сльози, хвороби і біди.
Хай подобріють всі люди недобрі,
Нехай їм стане легше на світі.
Нехай малесеньке Боже дитятко
Зігріє наші змучені душі,
Нехай збуваються всі наші мрії
І бідувати ніхто не мусить.

Приспів (chorus):
З Новим роком і Рождеством,
Я знову повертаюсь додому.
З Новим роком і Рождеством,
Ялинки, вогники кольорові.
З Новим роком і Рождеством,
Побачимося з вами на свята.
З Новим роком і Рождеством,
У сніжки бавляться ангелята.
Нехай забудуться зло і образи,
Недобре слово тяжче за камінь.
Нехай повернеться наша надія,
Яку ми безнадійно шукаєм.
Нехай всіх діток, що без мами і тата,
Прийме велика, тепла родина,
Нехай добро не землю випаде снігом
І краща стане кожна людина.

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З Новим роком і Рождеством,
Я знову повертаюсь додому.
З Новим роком і Рождеством,
Ялинки, вогники кольорові.
З Новим роком і Рождеством,
Побачимося з вами на свята.
З Новим роком і Рождеством,
У сніжки бавляться ангелята.

[Rí.na.dTeangacha]

https://youtu.be/dB6mPGLj2J8

I've liked this song for quite a while, but only listened to the lyrics superficially. I paid a little more attention this time and realised this song is some of the darkest shit I've ever heard. I mean, I knew it was a sad song, but fuuuuuck...


Lyrics:

Ainda é cedo, amor
Mal começaste a conhecer a vida
Já anuncias a hora de partida
Sem saber mesmo o rumo que irás tomar
Preste atenção, querida
Embora eu saiba que estás resolvida
Em cada esquina cai um pouco a tua vida
Em pouco tempo não serás mais o que és
Ouça-me bem, amor
Preste atenção, o mundo é um moinho
Vai triturar teus sonhos, tão mesquinho
Vai reduzir as ilusões a pó
Preste atenção, querida
De cada amor, tu herdarás só o cinismo
Quando notares, estás à beira do abismo
Abismo que cavaste com teus pés

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[sandrodream]

Hello ! I am listening right now to this amazing singer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433DWQObkuE

[Naava]

https://youtu.be/N4cBkR8l4K4

Lyrics:

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Verhot auki, herätys häpeään
Ei maailmanloppua saatu tänäänkään
Kaduttaa, miks mä menin kertomaan
Taipumuksistani tähän ongelmaan

Tällaisina aamuina, kun pää ei pysy mukana
Mua pelottaa kumpi ensin sekoaa
Minä vai maailma
Ja tällaisina päivinä en haluis olla hereillä
Saako sun sylissä luvan kanssa itkeä
Minä vai maailma
Minä vai maailma
Minä vai maailma

Mielestäni muut on siihen suurin syy
Kun alan epäsopivasti käyttäytyy
Voihan se olla, etten mitään vikaa nää
Itsessäni, kun draaman kaari viehättää

Tällaisina aamuina, kun pää ei pysy mukana
Mua pelottaa kumpi ensin sekoaa
Minä vai maailma
Ja tällaisina päivinä en haluis olla hereillä
Saako sun sylissä luvan kanssa itkeä
Minä vai maailma
Minä vai maailma
Minä vai maailma

Mitä jos en kuitenkaan
Ainoa olekaan
Tätäkö mietit taas
Kuka lie sen sanoikaan

Tällaisina aamuina, kun pää ei pysy mukana
Mua pelottaa kumpi ensin sekoaa
Minä vai maailma
Ja tällaisina päivinä en haluis olla hereillä
Saako sun sylissä luvan kanssa itkeä
Minä vai maailma
Minä vai maailma
Minä vai maailma

Translation (taken from here with a few alterations by me):

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Open the curtains and wake up to the shame
We didn't get the apocalypse today either
I regret that I told [you]
About my tendencies to this particular problem

In the mornings like these, when your mind can't comprehend it
I'm scared which one is going to go insane first
Me or the world
And on the days like these I wouldn't want to be awake
May I cradle on your lap and cry
Me or the world
Me or the world
Me or the world

In my opinion, other people are the biggest reason for it
When I start to act inappropriately
It could be that I can't see any fault in myself
When the dramatic arc fascinates me so

In the mornings like these, when your mind can't comprehend it
I'm scared which one is going to go insane first
Me or the world
And on the days like these I wouldn't want to be awake
May I cradle on your lap and cry
Me or the world
Me or the world
Me or the world

What if I'm not the only one after all
Is that what you're thinking about again
Whoever it was that said so

In the mornings like these, when your mind can't comprehend it
I'm scared which one is going to go insane first
Me or the world
And on the days like these I wouldn't want to be awake
May I cradle on your lap and cry
Me or the world
Me or the world
Me or the world

[Antea]

I am not sure in what language is the song (Is it Swedish?) If someone can confirm...

https://youtu.be/-myyaZ7seFU?list=RD-myyaZ7seFU