Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

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Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby h34 » 2017-02-07, 11:02

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Re: Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby PfifltriggPi » 2017-02-12, 21:33

All of these seem really interesting, beautiful and really, really hard. Plus, how cool would it be to speak a language called Udmurt? Just say it a few times. I am now finding the temptation to start Russian almost overwhelming. But I really do not have time now. :x
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Re: Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-06-02, 17:15

Colors in Udmurt:

тӧдьы tödjõ = white
лыз lõz= blue
вож vož= green
ӵуж tšuž = yellow
нап-ӵуж nap-tšuž = orange
горд gord = red
курень kurenj = brown
сьӧд sjöd = black
пурысь purõsj = grey
льӧль ljölj = pink

азвесь azvesj = silver
зарни zarni = gold

югыт-лыз jugõt-lõz = light blue
пеймыт-лыз pejmõt-lõz = dark blue
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Re: Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby Naava » 2018-06-02, 17:42

Linguaphile wrote:горд joškar = gord

Wanna try again?

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Re: Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-06-02, 17:49

Naava wrote:
Linguaphile wrote:горд joškar = gord

Wanna try again?


:rotfl:
You didn't like my Mari-Udmurt translation mess? (I used the Mari list as a template, and changed the wrong part.)
Thanks for catching it. Fixed!

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Re: Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby h34 » 2018-06-03, 12:26

Adding Komi-Zyrian (kpv)

тӧдьы, еджыд, tödjõ, jedžõd = white
лыз, лӧз, lõz, löz = blue
вож, веж, vož, vež = green
ӵуж, (кольк)виж, tšuž, (koljk)viž = yellow
(kpv кольк, koljk = egg)
нап-ӵуж, биавиж nap-tšuž, biaviž = orange
(kpv би(a), bi(a) = fire + adj. suffix)
горд, гӧрд, gord, görd = red
курень, перкаль, kurenj, perkalj = brown
сьӧд, сьӧд, sjöd, sjöd = black
пурысь, руд, purõsj, rud = grey
льӧль, роза, ljölj, roza = pink

азвесь, эзысь, azvesj, ezõsj = silver
зарни, зарни, zarni, zarni = gold

югыт-лыз, кельыдлöз, jugõt-lõz, keljõdlöz = light blue
пеймыт-лыз, мырдлöз, pejmõt-lõz, mõrdlöz = dark blue

For comparisons with other Uralic languages:
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Re: Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby h34 » 2018-07-18, 14:25

Numbers

1 / 10 / 11
(kv-kpv) öти(к) / дас / дас öти
(kv-koi) öтiк / дас / дасöтiк
(udm) одӥг / дас / дас одӥг

2 / 20 / 12
(kv-kpv) кык / кызь / дас кык
(kv-koi) кык / кыкдас / даскык
(udm) кык / кызь / дас кык

3 / 30 / 13
(kv-kpv) куим / комын / дас куим
(kv-koi) куим / куимдас / даскуим
(udm) куинь / куамын / дас куинь

4 / 40 / 14
(kv-kpv) нёль / нелямын / дас нёль
(kv-koi) нёль / нёльдас / даснёль
(udm) ньыль / ньыльдон / дас ньыль

5 / 50 / 15
(kv-kpv) вит / ветымын / дас вит
(kv-koi) вит / витдас / дасвит
(udm) вить / витьтон / дас вить

6 / 60 / 16
(kv-kpv) квайт / квайтымын / дас квайт
(kv-koi) квать / кватьдас / дасквать
(udm) куать / куатьтон / дас куать

7 / 70 / 17
(kv-kpv) сизим / сизимдас / дас сизим
(kv-koi) сизим / сизимдас / дассизим
(udm) сизьым / сизьымдон / дас сизьым

8 / 80 / 18
(kv-kpv) кöкъямыс / кöкъямысдас / дас кöкъямыс
(kv-koi) кыкъямыс / кыкъямысдас / даскыкъямыс
(udm) тямыс / тямыстон / дас тямыс

9 / 90 / 19
(kv-kpv) öкмыс / öкмысдас / дас öкмыс
(kv-koi) öкмыс / öкмысдас / дасöкмыс
(udm) укмыс / укмыстон / дас укмыс

100
(kv-kpv) сё
(kv-koi) сё
(udm) сю

1000
(kv-kpv) сюрс
(kv-koi) сюрс
(udm) сюрс

:arrow: Numerals in other Uralic languages

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Re: Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby Linguaphile » 2019-11-02, 19:29

Komi-Permyak conversational phrases

Дыр ов = Олат-вӧлат hello (singular: when speaking to one person)
Дыр олӧ = Олатӧ-вӧлатӧ hello (plural: when speaking to more than one person)
Лок жӧ, пыр welcome (singular: when speaking to one person)
Локтӧ жӧ, пырӧ welcome (plural: when speaking to more than one person)
Бур асыв good morning
Бур лун good day
Бур рыт good evening
Кыдз ни олат? how are you (singular: when asking one person)
Кыдз ни олатӧ? how are you (plural: when asking more than one person)
Аттьӧ бур fine, thank you
Аттьӧ thank you
Нем понда you're welcome (reply to thank you)
Кыдз тэнӧ шуӧны? what is your name (singular: when speaking to one person)
Кыдз тіянӧс шуӧны? what is your name (plural: when speaking to more than one person)
Менö шуöны ___ my name is ___
Оддьӧн рад тӧдсасьӧмлӧ nice to meet you
Меным сьӧлӧм сьӧрті тӧдсасьӧмным I am very pleased to meet you
Ми тӧдсасим ни we've already met
Вились виcьталӧ, пӧжалуйста repeat, please
Инглишӧн кужан-он? do you speak English?
Ме ог вежӧрт I don't understand
Ме тэнӧ ог вежӧрт I don't understand you (singular: when speaking to one person)
Ме тіянӧс ог вежӧрт I don't understand you (plural: when speaking to more than one person)
Мый дона? how much does it cost?
Адззисылытӧдз goodbye
Ашынӧдз see you tomorrow

Some resources:
Russian-Komi Permyak Phrasebook
Komi-Permyak phrases at Wikipedia
Komi-Permyak greetings
Komi-Permyak Memrise course

:arrow: for comparison
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Re: Permic (Komi, Udmurt)

Postby h34 » 2019-11-03, 17:30


Аттьӧ for these links! :) These resources are interesting, especially the word-by-word translations of conversational phrases.


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