Plaas wrote:As far as I know, Shetlandic is part of the greater English continuum. It is surprisingly English, compared to other West-Germanic languages: the plural suffix is -s, auxiliarys are [i[cood[/i] (could}, micht (might), wid (would), sood (should), there is only one definite article (da), the verb conjugation is practically the same (but "thou art" -> du is)... An interesting feature is ta be being the auxiliary instead of have: I'm written - I have written. But does that make it another language? I know the difference between language and dialect is not clear, but if one declares this a seperate language, the West Country Dialects or even Australian English would be seperate languages too, as would most Dutch dialects.
nailgun wrote:A little undignified, but an interesting point - which leads me to speculate as to whether there is actually any clear divide between the traditional language families (e.g. Indo-European, Fenno-Ugrian etc.)
Set wrote:Eugh here we go again Ciaran. You're proving just how political the language/dialect debate is. Well done.
Set wrote:What makes you think I was offended? Or are you trolling?
Anyway, this isn't a thread about Shetlandic, a thread about Shetlandic would talk about Shetlandic itself - what you're doing is trying to fit Shetlandic into your own Anglophobe/Pan-Celtic peoples agenda. Although I wouldn't go with the Shetlands, they're pretty intent on staying part of the UK.
And yes this is what you're doing. The only reason you'd push for a dialect to be a language is because you have separatist interests (which are your own, not the interests of the Shetlandic people btw). Just as someone might try and push for a language to be seen as a dialect so that they can justify not allowing independence, e.g. the Kurds in Turkey and Iran. However, these two situations really have nothing in common.
I'm not telling you to stop using languages to impose your own politics, but I will call you on it each time.
nailgun wrote:Now, maybe we can get back to discussing the main features of the current speech of Shetland etc., without descending into a diatribe of recrimination related to political borders.
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