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Asturian (Asturianu)

Postby Asturies » 2005-04-15, 15:03

Asturian is a language from Spain (Princedom of Asturies). It is important for learn Spanish and read Spanish Books. I can teach Asturian here for lessons. My Yahoo MSN is: Puxasturies12@yahoo.es :D

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Postby Asturies » 2005-04-15, 15:11

Asturian; Asturian has strong similarities to Portuguese and Galician, especially in vocabulary and syntax. It developed along with cantabrians, asturians, galicians and portugueses until the 14th century, when a split developed, largely for political reasons. For the native Asturians speaker, Galician and Portuguese is about 89 percent intelligible.

About 4 million people speak Asturian, 3 million of them in Spain, the rest in Portugal with a few communities in Latin America.

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Postby Drochfhuaimniú » 2005-04-15, 15:35

Is Asturian a Celtic language?

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Postby JackFrost » 2005-04-15, 15:43

Drochfhuaimniú wrote:Is Asturian a Celtic language?

No. Look the second post of this topic. It's a Romance language with many similarities to Portuguese and Galician. ;)
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Postby E}{pugnator » 2005-04-15, 15:48

http://www.asturies.com/asturianu/
This site teaches asturian. Seems to be down, hope it's only temporarily.

I's interested in learning some asturianu, but I don't use Yahoo! Messenger often. Do you have a MSN Messenger Id as well?
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Postby Asturies » 2005-04-15, 15:50

Well, Asturian was speaking for the celtics in the north Spain.

Ok, I have MSN Messenger, but I can't entry. Only in Hotmail. I can write you a e-mail: Sem_134@hotmail.com

Administrator --> It was spoke for Celtics, but it isn't a celtic language.

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Postby Asturies » 2005-04-15, 15:51

E}{pugnator wrote:http://www.asturies.com/asturianu/
This site teaches asturian. Seems to be down, hope it's only temporarily.

I's interested in learning some asturianu, but I don't use Yahoo! Messenger often. Do you have a MSN Messenger Id as well?


Yes, it is. It is only temporarily.

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Postby Drochfhuaimniú » 2005-04-15, 16:46

Yeah, I didn't see the second post, sorry .... I just recall hearing that Asturias and a valley in Italy are considered to be part of the Celtic world by some historians or anthropologists.

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Postby Luís » 2005-04-15, 21:41

Asturies, are you a native Asturian speaker?

I'd be interested in learning more about Asturian. I have some flyers I brought from Expolingua in Lisboa last year, but that's just about it (there was also a conference with a guy from the Asturian Academy, but he spoke in Spanish... :roll: ) I can see there are many interesting similarities between Asturian and Portuguese. And of course, I'm interested in it because Mirandese (in Portugal) is very much related to Asturian.
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Postby bluechiron » 2005-04-16, 0:25

Why not start lessons in the VSL? That way everyone can particpate and ask questions. :)
Shukta shimi yuyankapak, kanpa ñawikunata wichkana ushankakunarakmi kanpa shungutawan uyankirakpish.
To know another language, first your eyes will have to be open, and you will have to listen with your heart.

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Postby Guest » 2005-04-16, 13:40

Luís wrote:Asturies, are you a native Asturian speaker?

I'd be interested in learning more about Asturian. I have some flyers I brought from Expolingua in Lisboa last year, but that's just about it (there was also a conference with a guy from the Asturian Academy, but he spoke in Spanish... :roll: ) I can see there are many interesting similarities between Asturian and Portuguese. And of course, I'm interested in it because Mirandese (in Portugal) is very much related to Asturian.


Yes, I am. I am from Gijon.

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Asturian Lessons

Postby Asturies22 » 2005-04-16, 14:45

THE ALPHABET

LETHER name

a a
b be
c ce
d de
e e
f efe
g gue
h hache
i i
l ele
m eme
n ene
ñ eñe
o o
p pe
q cu
r ere
s ese
t te
u u
v uve
x xe
y y griega, ye
z ceda

CONTRACTIONS

"Indefinide"

tou + artículu
tou +el: tol
toa+la: tola
too+lo: tolo
toos+los: tolos
toes+les: toles

"Preposition"

cada + un
cada + ún: caún
cada + una: caúna

PREPOSITION "en" + indefinide "un, ún"

en + un: nun
en + ún: nún
en + una: nuna
en + uno: nuno
en + unos: nunos
en + unes: nunes

This is the first Asturian lesson

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Postby Saaropean » 2005-04-16, 15:50

A message from forum administrator Saaropean:

I created a forum for the Asturian language, and you (Asturies) are the moderator. You can teach your language here. :D

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Postby Asturies » 2005-04-16, 19:31

Saaropean wrote:A message from forum administrator Saaropean:

I created a forum for the Asturian language, and you (Asturies) are the moderator. You can teach your language here. :D


ok, thank you very much

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Postby Stan » 2005-04-17, 3:14

Very interesting 8)

Could you please explain the pronunciation rules of Asturian?

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Postby Psi-Lord » 2005-04-17, 4:26

Don't know how precise it is, but it's probably interesting to check http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Asturian/Grammar/index.html for that.
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Postby Asturies » 2005-04-17, 19:54

The rulers are very bassics: only g [it pronunciates the same of in Portuguese] and x [the same of sh in English]

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Postby Asturies » 2005-04-17, 19:57

Psi-Lord wrote:Don't know how precise it is, but it's probably interesting to check http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Asturian/Grammar/index.html for that.


The alphabet is wrong. RR is dessapear and CH too :)

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Postby Asturies » 2005-04-17, 19:58

Asturies wrote:
Psi-Lord wrote:Don't know how precise it is, but it's probably interesting to check http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Asturian/Grammar/index.html for that.


The alphabet is wrong. RR is dessapear and CH too :)





Note that the letter j is not used in the Asturian orthography.

The letters j, k and w are used only in foreign words and names.

Often the same sound is represented by different letters, as the sound [k] in:

kilo kilo,
quesu cheese,
casa house.

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Nouns in Asturias (Unit 2)

Postby Asturies » 2005-04-17, 20:04

NOUN/ NOME

Gender (Xéneru)
As in the greatest part of the other modern Romance languages, the nouns in Asturian are classified as masculine or feminine.
Generally, the nouns that end in singular by -u are masculine and those that end by -a are feminine.

In the spoken language the final -u is often pronounced [o]. Writing -o instead of -u is admissible, however, for the following nouns:

el fierro (the iron)
el pelo (the hair)
el filo (the file)
The nouns that end in singular by -e or by a consonant may be either masculine or feminine.


Feminine of the Nouns

A few nouns have their forms for masculine and feminine from different roots:
Masculine Feminine
home man
father
xenru son in law (brother in law)
muyer woman
ma mother
nuera daughter in law (sister in law)

Usually, the feminine forms are derived from the masculine ones by changing the endings, as shown in the following table:
Masculine
terminations Feminine
terminations Examples
-u -a el llobu la lloba
el fiu la fia
-e -a el presidente la presidenta
el xastre la xastra
consonant consonant + a el rapaz la rapaza
el sobrín la sobrina
-áu -ada l'abogáu l'abogada
l'emplegáu la emplegada
-íu -ida el berríu la berrida
But: el fíu : la fía, el tíu : la tía...
-éu -eda el carbayéu la carbayeda
el fresnéu la fresneda
-dor -dora el llabrador la llabradora
-deru -dera el panaderu la panadera
-doriu -doria el llavadoriu la llavadoria

A few nouns form feminine by adding suffixes:
+sa +isa +ina
l'alcalde : l'alcaldesa el papa : la papisa el rei : la reina


The nouns ending in masculine by -a remain unchanged in feminine:

el xurista : la xurista
Of feminine are the nouns:
la canal, la cubil, ...
a lot of nouns ending by -or: l'anchor, la calor, la grandor, la llargor...
designating the fruit-bearing trees: la figal, la manzanal, la peral, la pumar.... [/b]


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