''' wrote:I've never heard anyone, not even brits use anything else. What's the "PC" version?
peterlin wrote:''' wrote:I've never heard anyone, not even brits use anything else. What's the "PC" version?
I keep telling myself to ignore your (faux-?)-naive racism (btw, are you really that ignorant, or just trying to rile us, 'the pc mob' ?) but sometimes it's just too much fun.
1. 'pikey' is surely not a word to use in decent company. OED calls it derogatory, Wikipedia -for all its worth- says it's pejorative, when someone uses it on British TV there are complaints and investigations. Google is all willing to tell you all that and more if you have a spare 10 sec.
2. Were it not a (racist) slur, it would still be useless in the context of this discussion, because, it is used to refer to Roma, to Irish Travellers, or, frankly, to anyone living in a trailer. Speaking of 'pikeys' as a linguistic community makes as much sense as talking about, say, "white trash dialects".
3. As for your cross-variety intelligiblity question... well, it had been already answered before you asked it. See Alejo's post 2008-04-17 23:38
''' wrote: Long story short: I'm not here to rile ppl up. I never go out of my way to cause offense or shock, but neither do I go out of my way to ensure that I use the latest accepted terms.
Peterlin, you really need to stop drawing such heavy connections between not being PC and being racist. A lot of people are not as PC as you and yet we aren't racist.
I was under the impression that the uk gypsies were not quite the same ethnic group, but rather a related sub-group,
moving back to the language itself, how big is the "root romani lexicon"? And how much variation is there within the Kalderash dialect? in hungary the romani based word for girl is csaj (chay) not shey (It should be noted we use it in Hungarian slang too). Is this a usual level of difference?
ffrench wrote:I'm presuming a form of Balkan Romani, as evidenced by the Bulgarian and Romanian options on the interface, but it's not Bugurdži, as Wikipedia has Sar isi to anav? for 'What is your name?' where Romaninet has Sar si tjiro anav?. However, Googling Sar isi to anav? does get no results.
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ffrench wrote:I'm presuming a form of Balkan Romani, as evidenced by the Bulgarian and Romanian options on the interface, but it's not Bugurdži, as Wikipedia has Sar isi to anav? for 'What is your name?' where Romaninet has Sar si tjiro anav?. However, Googling Sar isi to anav? does get no results.
linguoboy wrote:Vlax is what I would've expected, since that seems to be the most popular variety in teaching materials. Tjiro is the Kalderash Romani for "your".
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