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Postby księżycowy » 2006-09-15, 0:36

This is the Abkhaz thread. Obviously this is for discussing and learning Abkhaz. I can't say that at this time I'll be a great help for right now, as I will probibly be working on the similar Chechen thread, but I just thought I'd start the process, and of course I'll help anyway I can, only wish there were some native speakers here at Unilang!
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Postby zhiguli » 2006-09-15, 4:20

Well...somehow I don't think anybody will care for this language. Then again, some people's language learning choices are determined by the weirdness factor. If you want weird (not to mention mind-bendingly difficult), then surely this is as weird as it gets.
Just look at this alphabet. (And isn't it funny how all their words begin with "A"?)
This one (Bzyp dialect) is even longer...
Still want to continue with this language? Yeah?
And how bout some Abkhazian music?
More here.

Абзиараз!

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Postby Soassae » 2006-09-15, 10:16

Well, I found all the recently created forums for 'other languages' very interesting for me. Indeed, I am interested in discussing some aspects of these languages (and cultures), even if I am not going to learn them. So, I thank you księżycowy and zhiguli for the links and material you already provided and for the future discussions.

Is Abkhaz an ergative language? I often read the Abkhaz and northwest Caucasian languages may be related to northeast Caucasian languages, and (more rarely) Kartvelian languages. What do you know/think about this?

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Postby księżycowy » 2006-09-15, 14:21

Here is a link to some Abkhaz lessons it's in English:
http://learn.apsni.com/
I used to have a link to the Russian equivalent to these lessons but the link I had doesn't work anymore. :?

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Postby księżycowy » 2006-09-15, 14:28

zhiguli wrote:Still want to continue with this language? Yeah?
Didn't notice that we linked to the same site! Oops!

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Postby allemaalmeezinge » 2006-10-22, 14:30

Hey you thinking learning that language improves job chances? :lol:

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Postby zhiguli » 2006-10-22, 23:17

yabba wrote:Hey you thinking learning that language improves job chances? :lol:


are you planning to join the abkhazian defence forces?

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Postby allemaalmeezinge » 2006-10-23, 8:17

My new comrades will call me Аяба 8)

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Postby zhiguli » 2006-10-23, 16:12

аҧсны ахәынҭқарра аиааира, аиааиба!

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Postby zhiguli » 2006-10-30, 17:10

mini abkhaz-mingrelian conversation guide:

http://www.samurzaqano.narod.ru/slovar.html

there's no translation to russian or any other language so i will attempt to translate it here:

Мшыбзиа! (მშъыბზია!) - გამარჯობა! (гамарџьоба!) Hello
Привет!
გამარჯობა


Бзиа убааит/ббааит (ბზია უბააჲტ/ბბააჲტ) - გაგიმარჯოს (гагимарџьос)
Hello (response)
Привет! (ответ)
გაგიმარჯოს


Уара иухьӡуеи?/бара ибыхьӡуеи? (უარა იუხ’ძუეჲ?/ბარა იბыხ’ძუეჲ?) - მუ რჯოხო სი? (му рџьохо си?)
What is your name?
Как тебя зовут?
რა გქვია შენ


Сара исыхьӡуп Ахра/Учақочи (სარა ისыხ’ძუპ ახრა/უჩაქოჩი) - მა ბჯოხო ახრა/უჩაქოჩი (ма бџьохо Ахра/Учақочи)
My name is Akhra/Uchakochi
Меня зовут Ахра/Учакочи
მე მქვია ახრა/უჩაქოჩი


Уара иужәлозеи/бара ибыжәлозеи? (უარა იუჟәლოზეჲ/ბარა იბыჟәლოზეჲ?) - მუ გვარი რექ? (му гвари реқ?)
What's your last name?
Как твоя фамилия?
რა გვარისა ხარ?


Сара исыжәлоуп Занҭариа (სარა ისыჟәლოუპ ზანთარია) - მა ვორექ ზანთარია (ма вореқ Занҭариа)
My last name is Zantaria
Моя фамилия - Зантария
ჩემი გვარი ზანთარია არის


Уара уабанхои/бара бабанхои? (უარა უაბანხოჲ/ბარა ბაბანხოჲ?) - სო ცხოჳრენქ? (со цхоуренқ?)
Where do you live?
Где живешь?
სად ცხოვრობ?


Сара сынхоит Гал ақалақьаҿ (სარა სыნხოჲტ გალ აქლაქ’აჭъ) - მა ბცხოჳრენქ ქ გალც (ма бцхоуренқ қ Гальц)
I live in Gali
Я живу в гали
მე ვცხოვრობ გალში


Уара уҭаацәароума/бара бҭаацәароума? (უარა უთააცәაროუმა/ბარა ბთააცәაროუმა?) - დაოჯახებული ქორექო? (даоџьахебули қореқо?)
Are you married? (male)
Ты женат?
დაოჯახებული ხარ?


Ааи, сҭаацәароуп. Мап, сҭаацәараӡам (ააჲ, სთააცәაროუპ. მაპ, სთააცәარაძამ) - ქო, მა ოჯახი პუნც (ვაპუნც) (қо, ма оџьахи пунц (вапунц).
Yes, I'm married.
Да, я женат.
დიახ, დაოჯახებული ვარ


Ани аби умоума/бымоума? (ანი აბი უმოუმა/ბыმოუმა?) - დიდა დო მუმი ქორჸუნცო? (дида до муми қорIунцо?)
...?

Ааи, сан илыхьӡуп Марина, саб ихьӡуп Гьаргь (ააჲ, სან ილыხ’ძუპ მარინა საბ იხ’ძუპ გ’არგ’) - ქო, ჩქიმ დიდა ჯოხო მარინა, მუმას - გეგე (қо, чқим дида џьохо Марина, мумас – Геге).
Yes, my mother's name is Marina, and my father's name is Gege.
Да, (мою) мать зовут Марина, а отца - Геге.
დიახ, ჩემს დედას ჰქვია მარინა, ჩემს დედას – გეგე.


Аус ууама/буама? (აუს უუამა/ბუამა?) - სი ქომუშენქო? (си қомушьенқо?)
Do you work?
Ты работаешь?
შენ მუშაობ?


Мап, аус зуӡом. Ааи, аус зуеит (მაპ, აუს ზუძომ. ააჲ, აუს ზუეჲტ) - ვარი, მა ვამუბშე. ქო, მუბშუ (вари, ма вамубшье. Қо, мубшьу).
No, I don't work. / Yes, I work
Нет, не работаю. / Да, работаю
არა, არ ვმუშაობ. / დიახ, ვმუშაობ.


Иаба? (ჲაბა?) - სო? (со?)
Where?
Где?
სად?


Ашкол аҟны (აშკოლ აყნы) - სკოლას (сколас).
At school.
В школе.
სკოლაში.


Уааи/бааи аҩныҟа (უააჲ/ბააჲ აჲუნыყა) - მუნორთი ჸუჩა (мунорҭи Iуча).
...?

Абзиараз! (აბზიარაზ!) - მშვიდობით! (мшьвидобиҭ!)
Goodbye.
Пока
მშვიდობით

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Postby zhiguli » 2007-04-24, 13:15

at another forum there is a 6-week language learning contest of sorts, i've chosen abkhazian. those who are interested can take a look at the notes i have been posting (i won't bother to cross-post them here):

http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/fo ... =5635&PN=1

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Postby Cylon » 2007-07-05, 20:20

Abkhaz. Seems like an interesting language. But for such a small language there are still some nice resources out there. More than for georgian. :shock:

Pitty that the lessons on the site are not complete yet. And how do you advance in Abkhazian? Are there newssites or anything else out there?

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Postby zhiguli » 2007-07-21, 2:17

There's not much online in Abkhazian, but here are some links from my other thread:

http://www.kapba.de/Apsny.html
http://www.abkhaziagov.org/ab/news/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvMuDNOFeO4

And here is an Abkhazian chat:
http://apsny.august4u.ru/
People responded quite favourably to my "мшыбзиа" last time I was there.

Cylon wrote:Pitty that the lessons on the site are not complete yet. And how do you advance in Abkhazian? Are there newssites or anything else out there?

[url=http://learn.apsni.com/index.php?lang=en]
apsni.com has been hacked[/url]...so that pretty much nixes that option for now. I know don't about progressing, I've never met anyone who's semi-seriously studied the language, let alone gotten to an advanced level.

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Postby Cylon » 2007-07-28, 20:07

The site is up and running again. Just checked. So far so good. No I can learn a bit off the language and then not be able to progress any further. :? :)

Thanks for the links by the way. :)

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Postby zhiguli » 2007-08-04, 8:20

A few pages from the Georgian-Abkhaz phrasebook:

მისალმება, მოკითხვა, დამშიდობება Аҧсшәаҳәара, Азҵаара, Аиҧырҵра Greetings, Regards, Goodbyes

გამარჯობა! Мшы бз'иа! Мшы бз'иақәа! Hello*
გაგიმარჯოთ! Бз'иа жәб'еит! Бз'иала шәааб'еит! Hello (response - plural)*
გაგიმარჯოს! Бз'иа уб'еит (бб'еит)! Бз'иала уааб'еит (бааб'еит!) Hello (response - singular)
დილა მშვიდობისა! Шьыжь бз'иақәа! Шьыжь бз'иа! Good morning
საღამო მშვიდობისა! Хәлыбз'иақәа! Хәлыбз'иа! Good evening
ღამე ნებისა! Шәыҵх бз'иахааит! Уҵх (быҵх) бз'иахааит! Good night
ნახვამდის! Абз'иаразы! Бз'иала! Goodbye
კეთილი მგზავრობა! 'Амҩа бз'иа! Have a nice trip
მშვიდობით! Бз'иала! Farewell/goodbye
მომავალ შეხვედრამდე! Даҽазн'ы ҳаиқәшә'аанӡа! Until we meet again
როგორა ხართ? Шәышҧ'аҟоу? How are you (pl.)
როგორა ხარ? Ушҧ'аҟоу (бышҧ'аҟоу)? How are you (sg.)
გმადლობთ, კარგად. Иҭаб'уп, хар с'ымам. Thanks, I'm fine
ძალიან კარგად. Д'аара ибз'ианы. Very good
მოხარული ვარ, რომ შეგხვდით. С'еигәырҕьоит ҳ'аиниара. Pleased to meet you (pl.)
მოხარული ვარ, რომ გნახე. С'еигәырҕьоит убар'а (ббар'а). Pleased to meet you (sg.)
დიდი ხანია, რაც არ მინახიხართ. Кыр ҵу'еит шәсымб'еижьҭеи. Long time, no see (pl.)
დიდი ხანია, რაც არ მინახიხარ. Кыр ҵу'еит усымб'еижьҭеи (бсымб'еижьҭеи). Long time, no see (sg.)
როგორ არის თქვენი დედა? Шәан дышҧ'аҟоу? How is your (pl.) mother?
როგორ აროის შენი დედა? Уан (бан) дышҧ'аҟоу? How is your (sg.) mother?
...მამა? ...уаб (баб)? ...father?
...ძმა? ...уашь'а (башь'а)? ...brother?
...და? уаҳәшь'а (баҳәшь'а)? ...sister?
მოიკითხეთ თქვენი მეზობელი. Шәгә'ыла асал'ам сыз'ишәҭ. Give my regards to your (pl.) neighbour.
მოიკითხე შენი მეზობელი. Угә'ыла (бгә'ыла) асал'ам сыз'ит (сызл'ыҭ). Give my regards to your sg.) neighbour.
თქვენები როგორ არიან? Аҩн'ы шәышҧ'аҟоу? How are your folks?
გმადლობთ ძველებურად. Иҭаб'уп, ҳш'ыҟац. Fine, thanks ("as usual")
მოიკითხვა ყველას (მთელ ოჯახს). Асал'ам сызры'ҭ зегь'ы. Give my regards to everyone (your family)

*-қәа is the plural marker, and only used when addressing more than one person.
*шә is the 2nd person plural affix, у the 2nd person singular masculine, and б the 2nd person singular feminine. Unlike Georgian, Abkhazian does not use the 2nd person plural as a polite singular.

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Postby zhiguli » 2007-09-09, 9:25

Cylon wrote:The site is up and running again. Just checked. So far so good. No I can learn a bit off the language and then not be able to progress any further. :? :)


just went by apsni.com and it's gone! replaced by one of those placeholder pages offering

car insurance mortgage refinancing college at apsni.com
dating services homes for sale apartments chat rooms airline tickets.

i finally got my hands on the abkhaz newspaper reader but i'm mostly reading the translations...don't think i'll be resuming my studies anytime soon...

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Postby zhiguli » 2007-09-09, 9:38

How to make "honey cake" in Abkhazian:

АЦХАМГЬАЛ

Алых: ашыла гуӡа -- х-ҵәыцак, ачашыла -- 100-150 [шәкы-шәи ҩынҩажәижәаба] г., ацха -- 70-80 [хынҩажәи жәаба-ҧшьынҩажәа] г., аӡы -- 1,5 ҵәыца [ҵәыцаки бжаки], аџьыкхыш -- гьамала.

Ашылеи ачашылеи ааилыршәшәаны, иааргуаҩаны ацха налауҭәоит. Иара уа маҷк иҵаау аӡыҧха алаҭәаны, икуаҳатәуп. Амажәа ампахьшьы нақуршәны ихҩаны 2-3 [ҩба-хҧа] сааҭ аҧхарраҿ иааныжьтәуп. Адырган ахуша ланшьыланы, иара ланҵаны иуӡуеит. Ишыҧхоу, ахарҵәы иаццәыругар ҟалоит.

THE-HONEY-CAKE

Ingredient: flour fine -- three-glass-one, the-bread-flour -- 100-150 g[rams], the-honey -- 70-80 g., the-water -- 1.5 glass, white-granulated-salt -- by-taste.

The-flour-and the-bread-flour-and having-mixed-them-slowly-in-one.another, having-hollowed-them-out the-honey you-pour-it-in-it. It there a-little which-is-sour the-water-warm having-poured-it-in-it, it-is.to.be-kneaded. The-dough the-towel having-tossed-it-over-it having-covered-it 2-3 hour the-warm-th-it-in it-is to be-left. The-pan the-butter having-greased-it-on-it, it having-put-it-down-on-it you-bake-it. As-it-is-warm, the-yogurt that-you-bring-it-out-with-it it-happen-s.

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Postby Cylon » 2007-09-13, 8:55

zhiguli wrote:
Cylon wrote:The site is up and running again. Just checked. So far so good. No I can learn a bit off the language and then not be able to progress any further. :? :)


just went by apsni.com and it's gone! replaced by one of those placeholder pages offering

car insurance mortgage refinancing college at apsni.com
dating services homes for sale apartments chat rooms airline tickets.


Well, that's the end of my little adventure with this language then. At least for now. :(

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Postby Mavericker » 2007-11-25, 1:48

Can someone here please help me out with some translations?


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