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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby księżycowy » 2011-12-02, 20:59

Cesare M. wrote:Yes however I think that in some countries, the Cyrillic is still used.

Quite so.
Also I love the Cyrillic alphabet. :)

So do I, but I also like the Latin alphabets for some of the Turkic languages, especially Turkmen. But I do like Uzbek a bit better in Cyrillic, the Latin variant is a bit to sterile for my tastes.

At any rate, I was just curious about your alphabet choice. :wink:

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby księżycowy » 2011-12-04, 22:34

モモンガ wrote:Yes, Uzbek can be written in Cyrillic, the government promotes Latin, but the country is still in the process of transition.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that on a governmental, and educational stand point, Latin is were it's at for Uzbekistan. For personal use however, some people might still use the Cyrillic.

Wikipedia wrote:Until 1992, Uzbek continued to be written using a Cyrillic alphabet almost everywhere, but now in Uzbekistan the Latin script has been officially re-introduced, although the use of Cyrillic is still widespread. The deadline in Uzbekistan for making this transition has been repeatedly changed. The latest deadline was 2005, but was shifted once again to provide a few more years.

Already education in many areas of Uzbekistan is in the Latin script, and in 2001 the Latin script began to be used for coins. Since 2004 some official websites have switched over to using the Latin script when writing in Uzbek. Most street signs are also in the new Latin script.

So I guess Cyrillic might be a little more present that I thought, but Latin still seems more prevalent.

At any rate, we're all in agreement that both are still in use.

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby Cesare M. » 2011-12-04, 22:59

Yes we are. Also モモンガ, I am unfortunately not able to see your scrap because my account won't let me, so could you send what you wrote to me as a PM? Thanks.

Also yes the Latin script is more convient usually, however countries such as Kazakhstan use the Cyrillic script a lot. ;) At least I read somewhere.

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby księżycowy » 2011-12-04, 23:07

Cesare M. wrote:however countries such as Kazakhstan use the Cyrillic script a lot.

Naturally, as the official languages of Kazakhstan (Kazakh and Russian) use the Cyrillic script. As do the languages of Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

Though I think Tajik can also be written in Persian script (as it's a dialect of Persian anyway).

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby Cesare M. » 2011-12-04, 23:20

księżycowy wrote:
Cesare M. wrote:however countries such as Kazakhstan use the Cyrillic script a lot.

Naturally, as the official languages of Kazakhstan (Kazakh and Russian) use the Cyrillic script. As do the languages of Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

Though I think Tajik can also be written in Persian script (as it's a dialect of Persian anyway).


Yes in Iran, Tajik is written in the Arabic script ;)

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby Cesare M. » 2011-12-05, 0:53

By the way, thanks モモンガ :)

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby księżycowy » 2011-12-05, 10:05

Cesare M. wrote:Yes in Iran, Tajik is written in the Arabic script ;)

And Afghanistan. And it wouldn't surprise me if some people in Tajikistan did as well.

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby モモンガ » 2011-12-05, 14:08

What about my songs?

Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan use Latin, so i would write them using Latin, whereas Kazakh and Kyrgyz use Cyrrilic, so I would write them with Cyrillic.
I try to stick to native ortography.

A lot of Mongolians use Latin, I don't know why :hmm:
I asked one Mongolian girl about it, and she said that if she were to write in Cyrillic other people would not understand her :silly:
they know Latin, but don't know their country's official script?
Or were they Chinese Mongolians?

Nobody likes our Slavic alphabet! :cry:
Only Kazakh and Kyrgyz, Mongolian, Tajiks are our friends!!!

Anyway Turkic languages tend to be written with Arabic script in China.


There is a lot of them, not only Uighur, but also over a million of Kazakhs in China.

I like the Arabic script the most, for writing Turkic langs.
They use some special letters not used in Standard Arabic :<3:
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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby Cesare M. » 2011-12-05, 21:27

Salom yana, hozir, men O'zbekcha 3 matnlar yozaman: Latin, Cyrillic, va Arab.

Ha モモンガ, men odamlar Hitay Mongolilar o'ylaman, chunki Mongoliada, ular faqat Cyrillic matn barlar. G'ayritabiiy, uning do'stonalar Cyrillic matn Mongoliacha tushunmadilar......

PS: モモンガ, Men sening savol to'g'rilamoq tugamadim, sababli mening hisobot, va men nimadan yozdim, chunki mening iPod juda sekindi. Tufayli, men bu shu yerda to'g'riladim. Bu "Sening Oz'bekcha yaxshi mi?", chunki "O'zbeklarning" "Uzbeks's" o'xshab "posessive pronoun".


Салом яна, хозир, мен Ўзбекча 3 матнлар ёзаман: Латин, Сирилик, ва Араб.

Ҳа モモンガ, мен одамлар Ҳитай Монголилар ўйламан, чунки Монголяда, улар фақат Сирилик матн барлар. Ғяйритабиий, унинг дўстоналар Сирилик матн Монголяча тушунмадилар......

ПС: モモンガ, Мен сенинг савол тўғриламoқ тугамадим, сабабли менинг ҳисобот, ва мен нимадан ёздим, чунки менинг iPod юда секинди. Туфайли, мен бу шу йерда тўғриладим. Бу "Сенинг Ўзбекча якши ми?", чунки "Ўзбекларнинг" "Uzbeks's" ўхшаб "posessive pronoun".


سالوم يانا، ھوزىر، مەن ۆزبەكچا ۳ ماتنلار يوزامان: لاتىن، سيرىلىك، ۋ اراب.
ھا モモンガ، مەن وداملار ھىتاي موڭولىلار ۆيلامان، چۇنكى موڭولىادا، ۇلار فاقات سيرىلىك ماتن بارلار. غايرىتابىىي، ۇنىڭ دۆستونالار سيرىلىك ماتن موڭولىاچا تۇشۇنمادىلار......

PS: モモンガ، مەن سەنىڭ ساۋول تۆغرىلاموق تۇگامادىم، سابابلى مەنىڭ ھىسوبوت، ۋ مەن نىمادان يوزدىم، چۇنكى مەنىڭ iPodجۇدا سەكىندى. تۇفايلى، مەن بۇ شۇ يەردا تۆغرىلادىم. بۇ "سەنىڭ وژبەكچھا يخشى مى؟"، چۇنكى "ۆزبەكلارنىڭ" "Uzbeks's" ۆخشاب "posessive pronoun".



Hello again, now I am going to write Uzbek in 3 scripts: Latin, Cyrillic, and Arabic.

Yes モモンガ, I guess that they were Chinese Mongolians, because in Mongolia, they only have the Cyrillic script. It's strange, that her Mongolian friends didn't understand Mongolian in the Cyrillic script.........

PS: モモンガ, I didn't finish correcting your question, because my account wouldn't let me correct it on your profile, and whatever I wrote was because my iPod was very slow, so I might as well correct it right here. It should be "Sening O'zbekcha yaxshi mi?", because "O'zbeklarning", means "Uzbeks's" as a posessive pronoun.

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby Luna_Lovegood » 2011-12-06, 21:22

don't read what momonga wrote, he is a troll!
he is my stupid younger brother.



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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby モモンガ » 2011-12-10, 14:37

Uzbek Lesson X

-Expressing condition


In order to express condition in Uzbek we add -sa to the verb stem.


bormoq -> bor -> borsa
to go - > go! -> if (it) goes

bu qiz mektepga borsa o'g'iydi.
If this girl will go to school she will study.


I think you can add personal endings to it.


So


do'konga borsaman baliq al!
if you go to a shop, please buy a fish!



End of the lesson


The lesson is in beta version, I I think there is a lot a, lot of spelling mistakes, so corrections are very welcome.
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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby Cesare M. » 2011-12-10, 15:00

モモンガ wrote:
bu qiz mektepga borsa o'g'iyadi.
If this girl will go to school she will study.


do'konga borsasan baliq ol!
if you go to a shop, please buy a fish!


Rosa yaxshi! :)
Роса яхшй! :)
روسا ياخشى! :)
Very good! :)

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby モモンガ » 2011-12-10, 18:46

Thanks for the corrections!
As i said I made a lot of mistakes.


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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby Limagne » 2012-01-20, 15:05

The Uzbek writer Ahmad A'zam offers a large number of his works for free download on his personal website.

http://www.ahmad-azam.com/

There're more than twenty tales, narratives, short stories and novels available in both the latin and the cyrillic alphabet.

Khurshid Davron's works can also be downloaded here (most of the books contain poems, but there's at least one novel).

http://www.kh-davron.ru/books.html

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby kalemiye » 2012-02-02, 14:26

There is at least one user actively studying it, but unfortunately the thread is almsot dead :(.
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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby księżycowy » 2012-02-02, 21:59

I was going to study it a while ago, but other linguistic priorities came up. I still stop by and read the thread when people do post though.

Maybe someday.

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby księżycowy » 2012-02-03, 18:17

Limagne wrote:So I guess I'll keep on posting songs until you go back to your first and only true love, Uzbek :)

Works for me. :P

I actually love the Central Asian languages, so I'm planning on learning one, just not sure if it'll be Uzbek, Turkmen or Kazakh. :hmm:
(Or when I'd get around to it for that matter)


*My first and true love would be Polish.

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby gothwolf » 2012-02-04, 15:15

I also adore Uzbek and sometimes I read some materials about the language but for now I've taken up a lot of other languages... Sorry. :(

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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby Vortex » 2012-03-13, 21:11

I would like to formally learn Uzbek one day. I took a field methods course and our consultant spoke Uzbek, so I know some from that class. Because of this I know quite a bit of the grammar and am able to construct fairly complex sentences but I don't really know much vocab nor do I know any every day phrases.

If anyone is interested I can post a paper I wrote on causatives in Uzbek. I must warn you the language is transcribed with APA and not in a native orthography.
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Re: Uzbek (Ўзбек тили)

Postby shprakh » 2012-03-27, 23:33

I'm also very interested in Uzbek because of the language itself and my interest in Central Asia. Too bad there aren't enough learning resources. I'm also too busy with my current target languages. Such a pity.


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