Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

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Re: Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-30, 5:01

Wait, what retroflex consonants? You mean /ʈʂ/?

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Re: Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

Postby księżycowy » 2019-01-30, 8:45

No, I mean /ʈ/ and /ɖ/.

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Re: Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-30, 13:27

Tibetan doesn't have either of those.

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Re: Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

Postby księżycowy » 2019-01-30, 13:56

Supposedly it does. Or am I confusing things? Or my sources?

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Re: Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

Postby księżycowy » 2019-01-30, 14:21

Both textbooks I have say that /ʈ/ is indeed a thing (I keep confusing things with the romanizations used :P ). Even wiktionary lists it in the phonology section on Standard Tibetan. Granted it lists it as /ʈ ~ ʈʂ/.

EDIT: Manual of Standard Tibetan has a great section on the phonology of Standard Tibetan in Appendix 2, fyi. :)

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Re: Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-01-31, 4:09

So you were thinking of /ʈʂ/ after all! ;)

I've never actually heard it pronounced as just a retroflex stop btw. I'm pretty sure I have heard it pronounced as just an alveolar one, though.

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Re: Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

Postby księżycowy » 2019-02-06, 18:37

I have to admit that I skipped ahead, and listened to the drills that have those retroflex consonants on them. It sounds like some type of /tr/ sound to me. I keep hearing an r sound towards the end.

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Re: Tibetanབོད་སྐད་/Dzongkhaརྫོང་ཁ

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-02-08, 2:37

I haven't gotten that far yet, so I guess we'll see again once we get there. :P


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