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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-22, 16:40

Theologians have made pseudo branches of languages, such as Biblical Hebrew and Biblical Greek and they use non-standard lexicons rather then the standard lexicons such as ' LSJ Middle Liddell Slater Autenrieth' for the study of Ancient Greek writings and there is no standard Phoenician lexicon. Theologians have also invented fictional scripts such as Paleo Hebrew and ancient pictographic Hebrew and is spammed everywhere.

מצה μάχη 'battle, fight, combat' (noun)
נצה μάχομαι 'fight, quarrel, wrangle' (verb)

The נ־ functions as the middle voice, the μαι in μάχομαι.

ריב ἔρις 'strife, quarrel, contention'
מריב ἔρισμα 'cause of quarrel'
אריב ἐρίζω, ἐρίσδω 'strive, struggle, rival, vie with, challenge

What confirms these to be true homologues are the words, "strife, strive and stride', v/f/d. The ב exchanges with one of the components of the ζ. יב/ίσδ. i.e Hiphil .

נשק τοξάζομαι 'shoot with a bow' (Odyssey 8.220, 1 Chronicles 12:2)
קשת τόξα 'bows'

This very verb נשקי as one reads in 1 Chronicles 12:2 'They were armed with bows' (נשקי קשת) is listed under strongs h5401 that is defined as 'kiss', a homonym.

נשק ἀσπάζομαι 'kiss, embrace'
מנשק ἄσπασμα 'thing embraced, dear one (Songs 1:2)

חברה ἑταίρᾳ (ἅβρα) 'companion'
חבור ἑταιρεία 'association, brotherhood, at Athens and elsewhere, political club or union for party purposes,'

With ἑταίρᾳ, the τ sound is dropped alike cockney or American accents and the ί exchanges with ב

נקדוה φακωτός 'lentil-shaped' Songs 1:11 (Adj)
נקד φακώδης 'lentil-coloured, freckled, of the kidneys' Genesis 30:32 (Adj)
فقوس "faqqūs" 'cucumber, calabash '
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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-22, 22:16

They are words in the Bible that only appear once, these are called Hapax legomenon and example is the naming of Zebulun with the verbs זבד or זבל.

זבלון "Zebulun" means ἑδώλιον 'seat, abode, in a ship, ἑδώλια are the rowing benches, or rather a half-deck and the verb is ἑδωλιάζω 'furnish with seats'

Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea (Gen 49:13)
חופים αἰγιαλός 'sea-shore, beach' αἰγ_ἅλς. ף/γ, ם/λ

אודה ἐγγυάω 'to give or hand over as a pledge, give security'
אודה ἰάπτω 'send, drive on, of missiles, send forth' (homonym)
ערף ῥάχις 'ridge of a hill or mountain, the lower part of the back, the chine, along the ridge'
חמס αἱματόεις 'blood-red, bloody, murderous'
ראובן εὐρυβίας 'of broad sway of gods, of heroes'
יששכר ἔχω μισθός, μισθαρνητικός 'of or for hired work, mercenary
לוי προσλαμβάνω 'borrow, lend'', δανειστής 'money-lender or creditor, borrower'
המשפתים τοῖν σταθμοῖν (dual) 'quarters, lodgings for travellers or soldiers. θ/פ
יוסף πρόσθετος 'added, handed over, assigned to the creditor, of debtors' (προστίθημι). θ/פ πο/יו

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-23, 0:07

מס δασμός 'a division, distribution, sharing of spoil, in attic an impost, tribute'

This is a two letter word that is the guises δασμός (מ־ /-μός) and the useless Lexicon gives מסס as its root meaning 'melt' , its a false root that is homologue with τήκω that includes a preposition. i.e ἀποτήκω, ἐκτήκω. cf. τέγγω/מסס

Psalm 97:5 - The hills melted like wax (הרים כדונג נמסו)
- τήκω; melt, be dissolved, melt away, of snow.
- דונג τεγκτός, τηκτόν 'capable of melting'

This is common Phoenician poetry for the seasonal melting snow of the Lebanese Mountains

Micah 1:4 - And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.
- מגרים ἐκρέων 'flow out or forth
- מורד κατερχόμενος 'go down from a place, of a river'

The snow falls upon the Lebanese Mountains and it melts into the streams that forms the rivers of the Levant, just as the River Jordan, named for ἀρδάνιον 'water-pot or trough' for the Jordan looks like a trough confirmed in Job 40:23 that read 'he can draw up Jordan into his mouth' i.e trough.

This is all Phoenician, the language of Tyre and Carthage.

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-23, 17:28

Cornucopia is an interesting word, for the first component means "horn" (קרן), the Latin word compounds cornu and copia and copia compounds co + ops and the first component means "with" (עם) and copia means "plenty" (שבע), a probable homologue through vowel consonant metathesis, copia > cpoia > שבע.

The Latin 'c' indeed exchanges with 'ש'

שמים > caelum c/ש, l/מ

קרנושבעה or קרנושועה - Cornucopia
עם ; σύν-, ξύν-, σούν-, συγ-, συμ-, con-, com-, co-, col-, cum-, cor.

Computer from Latin 'computo' compounds 'com' + 'puto', the semantics fit συμψηφίζω (התחשב ,עם־חשב) but "puto" also means 'cleanse', a form of puro. טהור/בר. As if its means συγκαθαιρέω 'to put down together, to join in putting down, to accomplish a thing with any one'

ירש παραδίδωμι 'give, hand over to another, transmit'
ירש trado 'give, hand over to another, transmit'
ירש hēres 'an heir, heiress'
עם ירש coheres
מורשה παραδόσιμος ''handed down, transmitted, hereditary'

Condense; the suffix relates to δασύς = עשו דשא עשב שעיר, the n inserted before the s to facilitate pronunciation.

δασύς - thick with leaves, thickly wooded, bushy (δασέα/דשא)
τὸ δασύ 'bushy country' i.e עשו "Esau". δ drops out; ασύ (ו; nominative relic)
δασύς 'with a shaggy surface' i.e שעיר * δασύς > δασύρ > δασύρος > Σάτυρος

Bushy Country.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/tex ... ction%3D14

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-23, 19:02

They are words that have multiple prepositions, such as παρακαταθήκη.

παρακαταθήκη
פקדון 'deposit of money or property entrusted to one's care'' Numbers 3:36
פקדה 'of persons entrusted to guardians, under protection of the state Jeremiah 52:11

παράλυσις
פלצות 'disabling of the nerves, paralysis' Isaiah 21:4

περιβάλλω
כרבל 'put round or upon a person, clothe' 1 Chronicles 15:27

περίβλημα
מרבד 'garment, actors' robes Proverbs 31:22

ἀμφίασμα > κάλυμμα
לבושה 'garment
מלבוש 'that which is worn Zep 1:8
ملابس

ἀμφίασις > κάλυψις
תלבשת 'garment, covering'
جلابية‎ 'Jellabiya or galabeya a traditional Egyptian garment native to the Nile Valley'

ἀνταπόδοσις
تعويض 't'ewyd; 'rendering, requiting, repayment'

ἁμφί λέχος > παλλακίς
פילגש 'concubine Genesis 22:24

ἀντιβολέω
התפלל 'meet as a suppliant, entreat, supplicate' Deuteronomy 9:26
All prepositions in compound verbs homologize with the prefix ה־ of הפעיל and הת־ of התפעל

ἀντιβόλησις = ἀντιβολία
תפלה 'an entreaty, prayer 1 Kings 8:38

ἔλεος, ἐλεητύς, ἐλεεινολογία
תחנה 'piteous appeal 1 Kings 8:38

συγκεράννυμι
התערב 'to be mixed or blended with, coalesce Psalm 106:35
התערב ' of friendships, to be formed by close union Ezra 9:2
התערב 'of persons, to be closely attached to, deeply involved with Proverbs 14:10

συγκυλίομαι, συγκυλινδέομαι
התגלל 'role around or wallow together' Gen 43:10

συμμετρέω
התמדד ' to be commensurate with 1 Kings 17:21

συμπληθύω
התמלא 'help to fill or increase, multiply Job 16:10

συμφλάω
התפלץ 'crush in pieces Job 9:6

συνίστημι
התיצב 'stand together Exodus 19:17
התיצב 'in hostile sense, to be joined, of battle Psalm 2:2
התיצב 'of friends, form a league or union, band together 2 Chronicles 11:13

συναράσσω
התרצץ 'dash together, of enemies' Gen 25:22

συνήδομαι
התעדן 'rejoice together' Ezra 9:2

συνεγείρω
התעורר 'revive' Isaiah 51:17

συμψεύδομαι
התכחש 'tell a lie together' 2 Samuel 22:45

Μῶσα, Μοῦσα
עזי 'music, song Exodus 2:5, 2 Chronicles 30:21

μουσικά, μωσικά
مُوسِيقَا‎ mūsīqā 'Music'

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-24, 17:01

אכאב πάσχω 'to have something happen to one, in bad sense, suffer' (verb)
כאב πάθος 'that which happens to a person or thing, misfortune, calamity, disaster, misery (noun)
כאוב παθητός 'one who has suffered, Medic., diseased, affected, subject to passion' (Adjective)
מכאוב, מכאב πάθημα 'that which befalls one, suffering, misfortune, a passive emotion or condition'
תכאב πάθησις 'passivity, morbid affection, disease' (abstract noun)

In these cognates, the א letter is intact and also shows up in the word 'Passive' and also shows the common interchange between כ and π.

כבש

In Greek there are two words for this, ὄις, the poetic word and πρόβατον, the prose word and both words homologize, so with πρόβατον, the ρ is droppable (non-rhotic) and π interchanges with כ.

πρόβατ > πόβατ > כ ב ש

ὄις also spelled ὄϝις hence ovis and ϝ interchanges with ב and ὄ with the guttural ك in كبش
ὄις also homologue of איל and אולי (οϝεσι)

Since ὄις is heterogeneous, a word is added to mark gender hence כבש־אלוף = ἀρνειὸς ὄϊς
Ref. Jeremiah 11:19

Compare with OILAM, the Lusitanian word for sheep
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oilam

Cádiz, the oldest continuously inhabited cities in Western Europe was founded by Phoenicians and the people behind PIE are practically erasing the Phoenician heritages, so more need to be done.

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-24, 18:01

No more artificial division between Phoenician and Homeric Greek.

אפריון ὑπερῷον 'the upper part of the house, where the women resided Songs 3:9, Iliad 2.514
בדד ἀποστατέω 'stand aloof from' Psalm 102:8
בדד ἀποσταδά 'standing at a distance' Lamentations 1:1, Iliad 15.556
גוע ἐκπνέω ' breathe one's last, expire' Psalm 88:15
דך δυστυχής, ἀτυχής 'unlucky, unfortunate Psalm 9:9
הצללפוני ἡ καλλίφωνος 'with a fine voice, expl. of Καλλιόπη 1 Chronicles 4:3
חג ἀνάγω 'celebrate' Exodus 5:1
טוטפת τά θέσφατα, τά φῶτα 'divine decrees, oracles Exodus 13:16. Odyseey 4.561
יפה εὐφυής 'well-grown, shapely Genesis 12:14, Iliad 4.147
כימה κομήτης 'comet, with or without ἀστήρ Job 9:9
ראי ὀρείχαλκος 'mountain-copper, a mirror of it Job 37:18
ליש λίς 'Lion' Proverbs 30:30, Iliad 15.275
סרת־טעם ῥάθυμος 'light-hearted, easy-tempered Proverbs 11:22
גרל־חמה μεγάθυμος, μεγαλόθυμος 'great-hearted, high-minded' Proverbs 19:19, Iliad 20.498 (Mahatma)
אלקום־עמו ἄλκιμος θυμός 'of stout heart' Proverbs 30:31
גדל העצה μεγαλόμητις 'of high design, ambitious Jeremiah 32:19
גדול־כח μεγαλαλκής = μεγαλοσθενής, Hsch. 'of great strength Nahum 1:3
מקרה μέγαρον 'bedchamber' Judges 3:30
מערה μέγαρα 'pits sacred to Demeter Genesis 23:9
נטר μεγαίρω 'grudge one a thing as too great for him' Leviticus 19:19, Iliad 23.865
קפוד ἀκανθώδης 'full of thorns, prickly' Isaiah 34:11
قنفذ ἀκανθόχοιρος 'hedgehog'

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-25, 11:34

نية (niyya) διάνοια, Aeol. διανοιΐα 'thought, intention'
In the verb, نوى the ن as double duty, the MV of διανοέομαι = διανοέω 'to think, intend'.

In Greek, the future is διανοήσομαι "I shall intend" formed with the -σ- infix, but in Arabic it is prefixed as س in سوف, the double homologue of ἔσομαι and τοὐπιόν 'the future'

سوف أنوي διανοήσομαι "I will intend to" cf. ἔσομαι διανοέω or τοὐπιόν διανοέω

A similar process with the Perfect tense, κ/ك
كنت أنوي διανενόηκα cf. γέγονα διανοέω
كنت γέγονα

Hebrew differs, in which the -σ- drops out resembling the Attic future tense and the Greek personal ending are transposed into prefixes.

אהיה سوف ἔσομαι. εἰ/הי cf. εἰμί
אהי־לי ἔσομαι (as if it were εἰομαι)

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-25, 13:53

ندي (nadiya) = κατανοτίζω 'bedew, νοτίζω 'moisten, water
התמוגג κατανοτίζω (Amos 9:13)

Biblical Hebrew in its current understanding lacks semantics, as it reads in Amos 9:13 "the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt", this verse involves עסיס = δροσίζω 'make dew, bedew' and התמוגג = κατανοτίζω 'bedew'

Those whom live in Lebanon should know this a reference to the abundant dew formations around the Lebanese mountains.

טל־חרמון : δρόσος Ἕρμαίου "Dew of Hermon" (حرمون)

The dew of Hermon envisioned as ointment upon the head of Aaron that ran down his beard to the skirt of his garment. Psalm 133

שירד κατέρχομαι "go down, descend, of a river,'
על־פי ἀμφί "on both sides'
מדותי ἐνδύματος cf. ἀμφιδύω
הררי ציון ὀρεινός χιών 'of the snow dwelling on the mountains' (ὄρος χιών)

Numbers 20:28 Aaron died there in the top of the mount i.e Hermon
Exodus 4:6 Moses his hand was leprous as snow.
Numbers 12:10 Miriam became leprous, white as snow


Mount Hermon as three peaks.

Hermon the Sidonians call Sirion; and the Amorites call it Shenir (Deu 3:9)
Mount Sion, which is Hermon (Deu 4:48)


שניר, שרין χιόνεος 'snowy, snow-white, “χιτῶνες"
הר שיאן ὄρος χιόνεος 'snowy Mountain'

שרין also means breastplate, therefore homologue with θωρακεῖον 'breastwork, cuirass, parapet perhaps envisioning the snow that wraps around the mountains like a garment.
- Σύριος "Of Syria"
- Σκίρων 'the wind which blew from the Scironian rocks in the Isthmus cf. dangerous rocks at Jaffa
- σκιρός 'hard, of tempered iron cf. περίσκληρος , ברזל ,פרזל, σίδηρος.

عراق short for αργος ἁρμοῦ 'the plain of the junction, of دجلة (αἴλουρος) and فرات (θήρ) since αργος is the synonym of πέδιον it shows up in Genesis 25:20 'Padanaram' that the Septuagint renders Μεσοποταμία.

إيران فارس πυρός (γῆ) 'Land of Fire'
عبرية ἠπειρωτικός 'continental, of a landsman, Asiatic Greeks distinct from the كنعاني
ليج العربي ἐρημαῖος κόλπος 'Arabian Gulf

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-25, 17:55

אגמל is a verb meaning 'repay, requite, reward, recompense' and the homologue is with ἀμείβω, indeed in modern Greek, αμοιβή means reward.

2 Samuel 19:36
why should the king recompense it me with such a reward
למה יגמלני המלך הגמולה הזאת
χρῆμα ἀμείβει μου ὁ βασιλεὺς τὴν ἀμοιβήν ταύτην

The other homologue of the verb is ἀπογαλακτίζω 'wean from the mother's milk' cf. ἀμέλγω 'of animals milked

The problem however, the Biblical lexicon suggests אגמל roots גמל"Camel" that is homologue with the Homeric word for Sheep or goat, μῆλον and the initial ג shortens μέγα "Big".

μέγα μῆλον > κάμηλος 'Big Sheep hence Camel. (Doric; μᾶλον) جمل "jamal"


חנניה = יהוחנן Διογενής 'sprung from Zeus, in Homer epithet of kings ordained and upheld by Zeus
חננאל = אלחנן θεογενής 'born of God

The governing substantive stands before the dependent substantive or pronoun and the governing substantive assume the construct state that, this came about through suffix prefix metathesis, the governing substantives exchanged places and the genitive form and function stood put.

מענה צמד ἡμιόνων ξυνωρίς 'mules's yoke" (original order) 1 Samuel 14:14
צמד פרדים ξυνωρίς οὐρέων 'yoke of mules' 2 Kings 5:17
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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-25, 19:05

In Jeremiah 46:4, there is סרין meaning θωρακεῖον 'cuirass' and the verb form is θωρακίζω 'arm with a breastplate or cuirass' that appears in 1 Samuel 6:18 under הסרנים that translates into the plural perfect particle, οἱ τεθωρακισμένοι "cuirassiers"
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... ek#lexicon

פלשתים πελταστῶν 'one who bears a light shield, light-troops '
כרתי Κουρῆτε 'the Curētes, a tribe in Aetolia, young men, espectially warriors
כרי κόροι 'in Iliad of warriors, at Sparta, κόροι, = ἱππεῖς 'royal bodyguards, aristocratic corps of cavalry'
סרן κοίρανος 'ruler, leader, commander'; τύραννος 'an absolute ruler, Tyrant
יזרעאל ἀνδροθέα 'Athena
גלית ὁπλίτης 'heavy-armed, Goliath'
כובע κύμβαχος 'the crown of a helmet
קבל ἐμβολῇ 'battering-ram
מחגורה περίζωμα 'girdle worn round the loins
חגורה ζωστήρ 'warrior belt
צבאות σημεία 'military standard, a body of troops under one standard
אשפה ἀσπίς 'shield

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-25, 20:30

עבוט ὑποθήκη (noun) 'pledge, deposit, mortgage' (Deuteronomy 24:10) ט/θ
עבט ὑποτίθημι (verb) 'put down as a deposit or stake, pawn, pledge, mortgage' (Deuteronomy 15:6)

Etruscan
vatiexe "pledged" [az96]
"dedicated" [lb 299]
"have been dedicated" [mcv 8 Nov 96]
vatimi "pledge" [az96]
see Latin vadimônium "security, pledge" [az96]

baca "berry." Latin [lrp 57]
בכא βατός "Mulberry, bramble'

faca "to cleft
בקע "To cleft"

farthana "offspring, fetus" [az96]
מולדות βλάστημα 'offspring, offshoot

farthnaxe "was generated, begotten" [am91, az96, mc91]
תולדות βλάστη 'of children, birth from a father,

farth "to give birth, generate" [am91]
ולד 'βλαστάνω 'of children, to be born

fise "faith" [az96]
see Latin fides "faith" [az96]
בטח πιστός 'faith, trust

pluti "prayer, request"
תפלה ἀντιβόλησις 'prayer' *ת = -σις, -ti

pômum, "apple" Latin [cw 52]
פעמן Bell shaped, of fruit

puil "spouse" [az96]
בעל πόσις 'spouse

rosa "rose" Latin [bc 199]
ברד 'rosette cf. שרש

kapra "goat" [gm97]
צפיר χίμαρος 'a young he-goat born in winter' ( caper, = τράγος)

http://etruscans1.tripod.com/Language/E ... Intro.html

Pyrgi Tablets in Phoenician and Etruscan.
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Phoenician language as being polluted and corrupted by theologians, everything people learn about the language comes directly from Biblical Hebrew, a pseudo language and its corruption of Phoenician mythology.

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-26, 12:12

They are plenty more words to investigate.

Genesis 8:13; The first day of the month, the waters were dried (חרבו) up from off the earth
Isaiah 44:27; That saith to the deep, Be dry (חרבי), and I will dry (אוביש) up thy river

They are two different translated into dry that have homologues in Greek.

אחרב ξηραίνω 'dry up, drain dry
אוביש διψάω 'to thirst, of the ground, to be thirsty, parched

Isaiah 37:18; the kings of Assyria have laid waste (החריבו) all the nations

This verb is listed under the same verb that translates into dry, however the homologue ξηραίνω does not mean 'destroy or waste.

אחרב φθείρω 'to ruin, waste, spoil, destroy, Lat. Perdo.
The Latin homologue, perdo, accounts the terminal ב

חרב φθορά 'destruction, ruin' appears Daniel 9:2
חרב ξηρότης 'dryness, drought' or θερμότης 'heat Genesis 31:40
חרבה ξηρός 'dry, opp. ὑγρός, of a dried-up river Lat. siccus,


There is another homonym, חרבה is the Phoenician word for "Ares or Mars" and appellative for war and the sword. (Iliad 7.330).

חרבה Ἄρευς 'the God of destruction' Isaiah 64:11 (υ/ב)
חרב ῥομφαία 'large, broad sword' Genesis 3:24
נחרב πολεμέω 'to be at war 2 Kings 3:24
חרבון, חריון ἐρέβινθος ' kind of pulse, chick-pea Cf. ὄροβος 'bitter vetch, Vicia Ervilia

חרדה ἔριδος 'strife, quarrel, contention' 1 Samuel 14:15, Jeremiah 30:5
חרדה φρίκη 'shuddering, shivering, esp. from religious awe Ezekiel 26:16

החרכים τῶν χαράκων 'pointed stake, palisade' Songs 2:9

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-26, 23:22

There is certainly elements of Phoenician in Ancient Greek writings that also relates to traditions of Syria and Lebanon.

Strabo. 15.3
Memnon (son of Tithonus) is said to be buried near Paltus in Syria, by the river Badas

Memnon founded the city of Susa, Persia, The wall of the city, the temples and palaces, were constructed in the same manner as those of the Babylonians, of baked brick and asphaltus, The Acropolis was called Memnonium, The Susians have the name also of Cissii. Æschylus3 calls the mother of Memnon, Cissia.


According to the Wikipedia page , Memnon was the King of Aethiopia but his father was the prince of Troy, son of Laomedon. Aethiopia is completely enigmatic.

Αἰθίοψ compounds αἴθω + ὤψ and the latter element is the homologue of אף, פן and בן. Therefore in Phoenician such a name would front with the ὤψ element.

בן־אדם, בן־איש = ἄνθρώπος (ἁνήρ + ὤψ)
אף־רחב = Εὐρώπη (εὐρύς + ὤψ) cf. Africanus

In the story of Perseus, a story closely tied to the Levant, he marries Andromeda the daughter of the Aethiopian king Cepheus and his wife Cassiopeia.

Pausanias, Description of Greece 4.9
Red water, in color like blood, is found in the land of the Hebrews near the city of Joppa. The water is close to the sea, and the account which the natives give of the spring is that Perseus, after destroying the sea-monster, to which the daughter of Cepheus was exposed, washed off the blood in the spring.

ξανθὸν δὲ ὕδωρ, οὐδέν τι ἀποδέον τὴν χρόαν αἵματος, Ἑβραίων ἡ γῆ παρέχεται πρὸς Ἰόππῃ πόλει: θαλάσσης μὲν ἐγγυτάτω τὸ ὕδωρ ἐστί, λόγον δὲ ἐς τὴν πηγὴν λέγουσιν οἱ ταύτῃ, Περσέα ἀνελόντα τὸ κῆτος, ᾧ τὴν παῖδα προκεῖσθαι τοῦ Κηφέως, ἐνταῦθα τὸ αἷμα ἀπονίψασθαι


This account is collaborates with Joshua 19:46, a garbled verse 'Mejarkon, and Rakkon, with the border before Japho'
written ומי הירקון והרקון עם־הגבול מול יפו and ἀπὸ θαλάσσης Ιερακων ὅριον πλησίον Ιόππης in KJV
and הירקון means ὁ δράκων 'The Dragon, a sea-fish or water snake, interchangeable with ὄφις and Pausanias as κῆτος 'any sea-monster' is the word Septuagint as for the Great Fish that swallowed Jonah whom set off from Joppa.

According to Pausanias, the river turned Red and matches the description of one particular river in the Levant, Abraham River (نهر ابراهيم) or Adonis River (نهر ادونيس) that emerges from a huge cavern, the Afqa Grotto.

Each spring at Afqa, the melting snows flood the river, bringing a reddish mud into the stream from the steep mountain slopes. The red stain can be seen feeding into the river and far out to the Mediterranean Sea.[6] Legend held this to be the blood of Adonis, renewed each year. Afqa is associated with the cult of Aphrodite and Adonis.

Exodus 4:9
the river shall become blood upon the dry land.
היאר והיו לדם ביבשת

Jonah 2:10
the fish vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.
καὶ προσετάγη τῷ κήτει καὶ ἐξέβαλεν τὸν Ιωναν ἐπὶ τὴν ξηράν
ויקא את־יונה אל־היבשה


יאר
1. ἔαρ, εἶαρ, ἦαρ , ἴαρα 'blood, early spring
2. εὔροος Ep. ἐΰρροος 'fair-flowing' “Σκάμανδρος” of the body, with the pores and passages open, τὰ ὑγρά, αἷμα.
3. ῥόος, ῥόϝος 'a stream, flow, current; κατὰ ῥόον down stream

'Each spring at Afqa, the melting snows flood the river, bringing a reddish mud into the stream from the steep mountain slopes. The red stain can be seen feeding into the river and far out to the Mediterranean Sea.

'Marvin H. Pope (Yale University) identified the home of El in the Ugaritic texts of ca. 1200 BCE, described as "at the source[s] of the [two] rivers, in the midst of the fountains of the [two] deeps"


ויקא
ἔξω (ἐξίημι) send out, take out, let one go out, of rivers, discharge themselves

The name Perseus or Περσεύς also the name for a fish

Aelian, De Natura Animalium 3.28
There occurs in the Red Sea a fish, and, so far as I know, the people there have given it the name of Perseus. And the Greeks call it so, and the Arabians in like manner with the Greeks. For they too call Perseus the son of Zeus, and it is after him that they declare the fish is named. Its size is that of the largest anthias; in appearance it is like a basse; its nose is somewhat hooked, and it is dappled with rings as it were of gold round its body, and these rings begin at the head at right angles to it and cease at the belly. It is armed with large teeth set close. It is said to surpass other fish in the strength and power of its body, neither is it wanting in courage. How to fish for it and how to catch it I have explained elsewhere.


Theologians have also monopolised and corrupted the understanding of the Ugaritic language and culture, such as the books written by mentally unwell people such as Michael Williams and when i search Ugarit in youtube or google, its all theologians, horrendous corruption of the predecessor of Phoenician language.

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-27, 16:57

Θώραξ — טור, טירה

These words appear in Ezekiel 46:23, see the third definition of Θώραξ "the breastwork of a wall, the outer wall". The first word, טור means Θώραξ and טירה means θωράκιον 'breastwork, parapet, the tower on the back of elephants, or rather the upper part became terminal ה exchanges with ν. cf. Παιάν/יהוה

Θώραξ
טור (Ezekiel 46:23)
סרין (Jeremiah 46:4)
שריון (1 Samuel 17:5)
שרין (1 Kings 22:34)
שריה (Job 41:26)
שור (Gen 49:22)
אשרנא (Ezra 3:5)

In 1 Kings 7:4, טור means window, the homologue of θυρίς spelled צהר in Genesis 6:16.

In 2 Samuel 5:8, there is צנור "Whoever climbs up by way of the water shaft and defeats the Jebusites" and the homologue is κενός "empty"

This seem to describes a pipe through which water reached Jerusalem, vital for David to seize and compel the surrender of the stronghold.

יבסי Βοιώτιος 'Boeotian'
ירושלם Ἱερόν Οὐλώ (Ἰουλώ) 'temple of Demeter (Ἰουλώ > Ἰουδώ > יהוד)
בית לחם Οἰκός Δάματερ 'temple of Demeter

The Phoenician hero, Cadmus came to Boeotia, where he founded the city of Thebes.

There is indeed evidence for Boeotian settlements in Jerusalem, see Boethusians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boethusians

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-27, 22:09

ἔλπω, ἐλπίζω, ἔλπομαι, ἐέλπομαι — איחל "I Hope"
ἐλπίς — תוחלת 'hope, expectation'

ἐλπίς an abstract noun formed with -τίς that converts to the prefix position, ת־, note that only τ is moved and the -ίς stays since it incorporates the ending.

The initial י exchanges with Ϝ since ἐλπίς was originally written ϝελπίς.

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-28, 19:30

Gen 11:3
And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter


ויאמרו איש אל־רעהו הבה נלבנה לבנים ונשרפה לשרפה ותהי להם הלבנה לאבן והחמר היה להם לחמר

The first person of the subjunctive (generally plural) is used as exhortation and may be preceded by ἄγε (הבה) Lat. age'. from the 2nd person imperative of ἄγω.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjuncti ... ient_Greek)

הבה נלבנה ἄγε πλινθεύσωμεν
הבה נרדה (Gen 11:7)
הבה נתחכמה (Exodus 1:10)
הבה־נא ἄγε νῡν "Come now" (Gen 38:16)

This verse brings up Phoenician construction language and also affirms the homologues and also language involving in the manufacturing of bricks.

A brickworks is called πλινθεῖον and three dialectic forms of the word appear in the Bible. מלך, מלבן and מלכן. The base word is πλινθεῖον thus the π turns into מ, metathesis occurs between λι, the θ turns into ך or ב and מלך is an abbreviated form of מלכן.

The quasi-synonym word is κάμινος 'oven, furnace' , this is obviously the homologue of قمائن (Qamayin) in Arabic and appears as a pseudo god in Bible known as Chemosh or כמיש/כמוש, adjectival words, thus homologue with καμινώδης 'like an oven or furnace'. i.e Moloch (πλινθεῖον).

2 Samuel 12:31 reads 'made them pass through the brickkiln in the silly garbled translation, but the verb here is הֶעֱבִיר and these diacritics stress that this verb is not הַעֲבִיר.

הֶעֱבִיר - ἐκπυρόω 'burn to ashes, to be much heated, to become red-hot'

Garbled silly translations by mentally unwell people
Leviticus 18:21 - להעביר למלך "to pass through the Moloch"
Jeremiah 32:35 - להעביר למלך "to pass through the Moloch"
2 Kings 23:10 - להעביר למלך "to pass through the Moloch"


להעביר למלך ἐκπυροῦσθαι ἐς πλινθεῖον

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-29, 0:44

The meanings of Phoenicians are confused through theology, a popular name today is MARY, the written Greek is Μαρία, the effeminate ending α- turns into ־ה or ־ת. So the word would render into מארית or מאריה and Μάρθα (Martha) in an Aramaic construct since it includes the Aramaic definite article and ה as an ending turns into ν → μ (Μαρίαμ).

The initial מ־ is a prefix attached to ארי meaning 'Lion' and the homologue is θήρ (ή → ά) and with the prefixing מ־ with θηρίον quasi-homologue of λέαινα 'Lioness' (Lat. leaena).

This also explains why Mary is followed by the name Magdalene meaning μέγα θηρίον that is quasi-homologue with the Latin epithet Magna Leaena "Great Lioness". cf. μέγαλα λέαινα מגדול לביא i.e Fulvia.

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-29, 21:12

Tophet (feminine abstract noun)
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This an important word that concerns the Ancient Phoenicians, this is the direct homologue of ὄπτησις by the prefix/suffix construction, the initial TAV represents -σις/-τις and is pronounced with the same vowels. ὄ/η.

ὄπτησις Roasting, frying; baking of bread, of pottery

The root of ὄπτησις is the verb ὀπτάω, the homologue of אפה.

Image ὀπτάω (Verb) "bake" = خبز
Image μᾶζα 'barley-cake'
Image Δημή(τηρ) 'bread, Demeter.
Image Ἰουλώ 'name for Demeter

The feast of the unleavened bread or Passover are perversions of Phoenician festivals and the Romans had an equivalent, the festival of Anna Perenna, celebrated with the sacrifice of Barley cakes prepared for the kith and kin on the full moon of March.

Image ἄνθιον 'spring, in Orphic phraseology' (Nisan)
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... ek#lexicon

Aeschylus Agamemnon 1035 (Spartans)
for even Alcmene's son, men say, once endured to be sold and eat the (unleavened) bread (μάζης) of slavery
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/tex ... 99.01.0004

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Re: Phoenician study group

Postby Lycurgus » 2019-11-29, 23:10

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It is not questioned why BLESS is near identical in the Mediterranean languages and PIE perverted its definition 'hallow with blood' yet the Greek word, εὔλογος compounds εὔ and λογος as does the Latin word, bene dico > benedicite.

The Hebrew word is ברך, a simple word that guises the Greek compound. ב (εὐ) רך (λόγ).

התברך κατευλογέω; strengthd. for εὐλογέω
ברוך εὐλογητός "blessed"
אברך εὔλογος 'as a name

εὐ- exchanges with אב־, ב־ and י־.

יפנה εὔφωνος 'euphonious, sweet-voiced, musical, loud-voiced, of a herald'
יפה εὐφυής 'well-grown, shapely, of good natural disposition'

Arabic linguists have also perverted its definition, for بارك it gives a verb meaning 'kneel down' which itself a homonym, The homologue of the verb προσκυνέω 'make obeisance, of the Oriental fashion of prostrating oneself before kings and superiors'


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