Haitian Proverbs

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Postby Alcadras » 2006-08-01, 22:41

I think,we have that kind of an idiom,too.I can't exactly remember :roll:

Galiba,biz de öyle bir deyime sahibiz.Tam olarak hatırlayamıyorum :roll:

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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-08-03, 22:44

This was said by the Martiniquais poet Aimé Césaire who wasn't Haïtian, but still very important figure of 'La Négritude'. All of you have studied French, so I HOPE that all of you know what that is...

"Créole is a language whose body is French but whose soul is African."
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Postby Alcadras » 2006-08-03, 23:53

Nope,i didn't study French. :P
(Hayır,ben Fransızca çalışmadım.)

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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-08-04, 0:00

Alcadras wrote:Nope,i didn't study French. :P
(Hayır,ben Fransızca çalışmadım.)


Oh yeah, i forgot...'La Négritude' was a literary movement to promote Francophone and Créolphone pride and writing. Aimé Césaire was one of the main leaders - he was from Martinique.
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Postby M@! » 2006-08-04, 19:45

Thanks for your answers Marcus.
And this saying pretty much sums it up for me:


Marcus wrote:"Créole is a language whose body is French but whose soul is African."


Here is another proverb:
Zafè kabrit pa zafè mouton.
Goat business, not lamb business.
-- I wonder what's that supposed to mean. Any ideas?

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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-08-04, 22:26

Mariam wrote:Thanks for your answers Marcus.
And this saying pretty much sums it up for me:


Marcus wrote:"Créole is a language whose body is French but whose soul is African."


Here is another proverb:
Zafè kabrit pa zafè mouton.
Goat business, not lamb business.
-- I wonder what's that supposed to mean. Any ideas?


I've never heard it... :?
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Postby M@! » 2006-08-04, 22:40

It's from this page I posted on the first page of this same thread. Look at proverb number 100.

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Postby M@! » 2006-08-22, 10:28

What about that proveb Marcus? Did you find anything?

Here is another one I don't really understand:
Lakay kanmarad pa lan mache.
Home commarade not the annual market. :?:

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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-08-22, 15:38

Marcus wrote:
Mariam wrote:Thanks for your answers Marcus.
And this saying pretty much sums it up for me:


Marcus wrote:"Créole is a language whose body is French but whose soul is African."


Here is another proverb:
Zafè kabrit pa zafè mouton.
Goat business, not lamb business.
-- I wonder what's that supposed to mean. Any ideas?


I'll ask my mother when she comes home this evening...Where did you find that one Mariam? I've never heard it... :?


Yeah, I got the answer and I forgot to post it. :oops: This refers to a particular job, work, etc. that requires tenacity and even trickery at times...

Your relatives that cook and find all of the necessities for life are your home commarades. It is better to rely on them for a home-cooked meal or sewed clothes rather than to get it from the market place - where people are concerned only with making money off of you. This is a very important feature of Haïtian culture - and many people (esp. older ones) carry this thinking.
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-09-19, 0:01

M regret anpil si m repet bagay...

-Dèye montay, gen montay.
Referring to the difficulties of life - There are always more mountains beyond the ones you see now.
(Lit: Behind mountain, there(is/are) mountain)

-Roch nan dlo pa konnen doule roch nan sole.
The grass is always greener on the other side...
The rock in the water doesn't see the pain that the rock in the sun experiences (vice versa).
(Lit: Rock in water not know pain rock in sun.)
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-02, 19:47

This proverb encourages humility :

Bondye fè san di.
God acts without speaking (speaking i.e. bragging that He does so many things)
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Postby culúrien » 2006-10-02, 19:49

Sisyphe wrote:This proverb encourages humility :

Bondye fè san di.
God acts without speaking (speaking i.e. bragging that He does so many things)


Me gusta mucho :D :P

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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-02, 20:29

Sa ka arive koukouloulou, tou ka arive nan kakalanga.
What can happen to the turkey can happen to the rooster also. Don't be so sure of yourself that you flaunt it to others - pride can bring you to a quick crash.
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-03, 18:53

Ti moun fwontè a grandi devan Baron Samdi.
The insolent child will grow up in Baron Samdi's domain. (Baron Samdi is the god of the cemetary in Voodoo tradition)
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-05, 0:02

Le yo vle touye chen nan, di li (or di'l) fou.
Loose Translation:When they want to kill the dog, they say that he is crazy.
Moral: If someone suddenly turns into your enemy and blames his problems on you, then you know who has the problem (the other person).
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-05, 18:18

Si se Bondye ki voye ou, li pral paye pou ou.
If God sends you, then he will pay (your expenses) for you.
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