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Cornish Community

Postby Ciarán12 » 2013-05-12, 19:27

*morlader, this question is mainly aimed at you, obviously :wink: but everyone else's two cents are welcome *

Bhí mé ag smaoineamh cad é an scéal leis an teanga Choirnise agus a lucht tacaíochta sa Choirn. An bhfuil mórán daoine á foghlaim? An bhfuil aithne agat ar aon duine eile atá an teanga líofa aige? Agus an bhíonn sibh ag cruinniú go rialta 7rl? Go bunúsach, cé chomh beo is atá sí sa Choirn i do thuairim?

I was wondering what the situation in Cornwall with was with the Cornish language community. Are there many people learning it? Do you know anyone else who's fluent? And are there regular meetings and such? Basically, how alive is the language in Cornwall in your experience?

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Re: Cornish Community

Postby morlader » 2013-05-13, 10:10

A-dhia devedhyans an kesrosweyth, kales yw godhvos py lies den usi ow teski Kernowek, drefen ny res na fella mos dhe glass po bos yn Kernow rag hy deski. Yma kuntelesow henwys Yeth an Werins yn fenowgh lowr, hag yma nebes hwarvosow dres an vledhen kepar hag an Bennseythen Gernowek ha Tregedna, keffres ha devnydh a'n yeth war vedia kowethasek. Yma ynwedh Keskowethyans an Taves Kernowek a ober termyn leun yn unn bromovya an yeth yn skolyow hag yn poblek, hag a-ban yllsyn wor'tiwedh akordya war lytherennans, yma moy kyfyans yn-mesk konselyow ha negysyow yn kever hy usya, ytho yma ow kressya yn lent hy gweladowder. Drefen nag esa kowser genesik veth orth dalethans an dasserghyans, ha drefen an yeth dhe vos ankevys gans an brassa rann a Gernowyon, argerdh lent dres ehen yw, mes my a lavarsa y fedh gwell termyn a dheu an yeth.

Since the advent of the Internet it's difficult to know how many people are learning Cornish, since it's no longer necessary to go to a class or even be in Cornwall to learn. There are meetups called Yeth an Werins quite regularly, and there are a few events throughout the year such as the Pennseythen Gernowek (Cornish language weekend) and Tregedna event (another Cornish-only weekend), as well as the language being used on social media. There's also the Cornish Language Partnership which works full time promoting the language in schools and in public, and since we finally managed to agree on a spelling system, there's more confidence among councils and business in using it, so it's slowly getting more visible. Because there weren't any native speakers when the revival started, and the language had been forgotten about by most Cornish people, it's an incredibly slow process, but I'd say things are looking up.
An lavar coth yw lavar gwir:
Na vedn nevra dos vas a davas re hir;
Bes den heb tavas a gollas y dir.
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Re: Cornish Community

Postby Zviezda » 2013-05-14, 22:30

since we finally managed to agree on a spelling system


really? which one? it's hard to believe that everybody agrees on a spelling system for Cornish... :)

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Re: Cornish Community

Postby morlader » 2013-05-15, 7:55

Zviezda wrote:
since we finally managed to agree on a spelling system


really? which one? it's hard to believe that everybody agrees on a spelling system for Cornish... :)


Yth esa lytherennans nowyth henwys FSS (Furv Skrifys Savonek) akordyes yn 2008 :) Gwell yw gans nebes tus hwath aga lytherennans koth, mes yma an brassa rann a daklow nowyth y'n FSS lemmyn.

A new spelling called SWF (Standard Written Form) was agreed in 2008 :) Some people still prefer to use their old spelling, but for most new things that happen it is usually always SWF now.
An lavar coth yw lavar gwir:
Na vedn nevra dos vas a davas re hir;
Bes den heb tavas a gollas y dir.
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Re: Cornish Community

Postby Daionii » 2013-05-16, 11:52

Do you think the online Cornish community is particularly different from that of 'real life' (for want of a better term!)?

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Re: Cornish Community

Postby morlader » 2013-05-16, 13:21

Yn py fordh? Tus gwir yw an kemeneth warlinen ynwedh...

In what way? The online community are real people too...
An lavar coth yw lavar gwir:
Na vedn nevra dos vas a davas re hir;
Bes den heb tavas a gollas y dir.
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Re: Cornish Community

Postby Daionii » 2013-05-17, 8:39

I'm not entirely sure, it was a question one of my lecturers asked me and I honestly couldn't answer since I haven't taken part in the Cornish speaking community beyond doing so online. Online discussions seem to turn to spelling and grammar arguments so easily, I suppose I'm just wondering if there is ever as much arguing over the different Cornish varieties when speakers meet up in person.

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Re: Cornish Community

Postby morlader » 2013-05-17, 9:59

Yma nebes tus a gar dadhla a-dro dhe lytherennans, hag yma brassa rann an dadhel-na war an kesrosweyth, neb yw an acheson rag y weladowder digemusurel warlinen. Mes pan omvet Kernowegoryon yn bewnans gwir, nyns eus meur a dhadhel a-dro dhe lytherennans (drefen ny dheur an brassa rann a dus). Usyes dre vras yw an yeth rag kows usadow a-dro dhe dra veth, poran kepar ha yethow erel.

There are certain people who like to discuss spelling, and most of that discussion is on the Internet, which is why it gets a disproportionate amount of visibility online. But when Cornish speakers meet in real life, there isn't usually much discussion about spelling (since the majority of people don't care about it). The language is mostly used for ordinary talk about anything, just like other languages.
An lavar coth yw lavar gwir:
Na vedn nevra dos vas a davas re hir;
Bes den heb tavas a gollas y dir.
[flag=]kw[/flag]


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