Irish pronunciation

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Re: Irish pronunciation

Postby Deghebh » 2014-04-22, 15:47

A Chara,

Actually, I did not say I had a low IQ. What I said was it was possible that the difference was 50, but that would make our friend, either 100, or 200. In other words, having taken the Mensa test, scoring about 150, I was allowing our friend to take his own conclusion.
There is a problem with a high IQ, apart from vanity.
7lb of fat only goes so far. What is applied to one set of tasks, deprives another.
Socially, I am a basket case, as some here have noticed.
My school education was an utter disaster. I was not even allowed to sit English GCE. I failed French, but got Maths, Physics, and Tech Drawing. Clearly, I never have done things the 'ordinary' way, very possibly, I cannot. So I beg your indulgence.
The reference to a two year old, refers to my linguistic ability in spoken, or written composition in Irish.
I can bid 'Avé' and 'Valé', Please, thank you, excuse me, and little else.
I did the Pimsleur course, but there is no continuation course.
I cut and fitted the Gael-Linn recording to the TYI book, and also did the same for Buntús Cainte 1.
I have also retypeset quite a few books, but though I have gained insights into how the Irish written phonology works, I have learned little Irish post Pimsleur.

The natural way to learn a language is in the arms of a good woman.
That is how I learned English, but that was 3/4 of a century ago!
Hence the reference to 2yo.

Perhaps I should use the TYI, or BC, which I have prepared for others to use.
I should then take my own medicine.
But strangely, I do not feel able to do this on my own.
I need someone to kick my arse from time to time.

Is mise, le meas,
Deghebh

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Re: Irish pronunciation

Postby Deghebh » 2014-05-03, 20:52

Oh dear, it has gone very quiet here.
Have I killed the chain?
Shame is so little does so much.
Back to slender 'r'.
I have consulted the old books, and the newer.
The sound files issued with Learning Irish indicate that the sound is indeed a fricative, but careful listening indicates that it starts with a 'tap' which sounds almost like a 'd', then runs into a sound almost like an English voiced 'th', but with the tongue withdrawn slightly.
There is no sign in the sonogram if any dental sibilant, so the sound cannot be a 'z', nor can it be a slender 'z', because the high frequencies are not there.
As for IPA symbols, they are alright if you know what the sounds are that the symbols represent, but it seems that this qualification is for the most part imaginary, else this chain would never have started.
Le meas,
Deghebh.


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