Iroquoian Study Group

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Lur » 2018-07-23, 21:38

Mohawk it is!

I'm Ms "I want to be in your study group but I want to do something else" :lol:
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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby księżycowy » 2018-07-23, 22:19

When would you like to complete the first lesson by?

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Massimiliano B » 2018-07-23, 23:32

księżycowy wrote:I also have the teaching grammar for Mohawk. And guess what? Not only do I have it in updated orthography, but I also have the audio!


How did you get it? Did you buy it?

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby księżycowy » 2018-07-23, 23:46

Yes. I bought a copy from one of the links I posted in the Mohawk section of the Learning Resources thread.

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Lur » 2018-07-24, 9:32

księżycowy wrote:When would you like to complete the first lesson by?

How much is in one? Maybe two per week? I know that seems uselessly slow but I'm a bit stressed out and this is more like leisure time :para: (Other people watch movies, I make a list of indigenous languages from everywhere :lol: )

When I get really hooked to anything I discover, I'm totally committing, though.
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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby księżycowy » 2018-07-24, 9:38

I think that might be a bit gung-ho myself. :P

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Lur » 2018-07-24, 12:53

I'm okay with your own pace :D .
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Postby księżycowy » 2018-07-24, 13:12

And I'm ok with us going at different paces, if you find mine too slow. :P

Let's shoot for Lesson 1 by next week (7/31), how does that sound for you?

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Lur » 2018-07-26, 10:22

I'm up for it :D

My brain is a bit like "lets do Mohawk, but also Oneida is the most like that, but also Cayuga has resources, but also I should look at other groups so there's Wendat and Tuscarora..."
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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-07-30, 3:44

Aw man! Now y'all are doing Mohawk! Well, at least I have the teaching grammar, too.

Dunno whether I'll manage to do chapter one in two days though. :para:

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby księżycowy » 2018-07-30, 9:07

I'm still focusing on Seneca, so don't sorry about that.

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Lur » 2018-07-31, 14:35

I haven't actually done anything yet because of the foster kittens and moving :? But I found three videos about pronunciation and so on in youtube.
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Postby księżycowy » 2018-07-31, 23:11

And I've been meaning to upload the audio to the Mohawk Teaching Grammar.

But first things first, I need to review some Seneca!

Mulligan? :P

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby księżycowy » 2018-08-01, 18:17

*AHEM*
Vijay:
księżycowy wrote:
księżycowy wrote:I think I'd like to get some practice in with the things we were doing in class, so let's play out a dialogue or something. (Feel free to use the vocabulary in the Community class PDF. It's everything we've covered so far.)

Sgë:nö'. Dë'ëh nis šya:söh?

Actually, where as I'd like to still do this, I do think it's a bit unreasonable for us to converse in a fast enough way to make this workable, so let's just trade off writing up dialogues/stories and have the other person translate. :P

A: Sgë:nö’. Dë’ëh ni:s šya:söh?
B: Sgë:nö’. Terry ni:’ gya:söh.
A: Jerry ni:s šya:söh?
B: Hë’ëh, Jerry (ni:’) de’gya:söh! Terry ni:’ gya:söh!
A: Tom ni:’ gya:söh. Sadögweta’?
B: Gadögweta’. I:s koh? (i:s = ni:s)
A: De’gadögweta’. Aknö’ë:gö’s.

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Lur » 2018-08-02, 9:41

Do you know what exactly did they change in the Mohawk ortography?

(I find the use of : for long vowels really cute)

(We should have study groups for eeeeeverythingggg)
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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby księżycowy » 2018-08-02, 9:49

Lur wrote:Do you know what exactly did they change in the Mohawk ortography?

I'm afraid I don't, I just know that they changed it in 1993 if I remember correctly.

I'm inclined to think that it didn't change that much, but I'm not sure by any measure.

(We should have study groups for eeeeeverythingggg)

Everything Iroquoian? I'd be down for that for sure! :P :lol: :D

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Lur » 2018-08-02, 9:51

Actually I was thinking everything Dene and Inuit but sure :lol:

So I'm going to start with the teaching grammar today. Because it seems I dig it, I might want to do everything Iroquoian at some point.
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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby księżycowy » 2018-08-02, 10:42

That reminds me that I should upload the audio. I'll try to do that later today. I'll shoot you a PM when I have some of it done.

And I'd definitely be up for a few other NAIL study groups. Eventually.

I could definitely get down with some Eskimo-Aleut, and a few others. I could potentially go for Dene too. (I'm not sure how you're meaning to use Dene, but using it by itself specifically means the Northern Athabascan speaking peoples. Which I could definitely go for. :P )

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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby Lur » 2018-08-02, 16:22

I imagine there aren't Iroquoian resources beyond beginning textbooks, right? :(
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Re: Iroquoian Study Group

Postby księżycowy » 2018-08-02, 17:13

There are some grammars, but not much no. Are you looking at any particular language in the family, or for any particular resource(s)?


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