NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut)

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NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut)

Postby Irusia » 2017-11-22, 11:15

So, during the winter I will learn Greenlandic.

What I already know:
- conjugation of intransitive verbs in present (or rather non-future?) indicative
- suffix -qar- ("to have")
- suffix -lior- ("to make")
- suffixes -nnguaq and -rsuaq ("small" and "big")
- ergative and absolutive cases
- locative cases
- instrumental case
- plural
- ~ 20-30 words

In December I will start with revising this and after that I'll start learning something new.

My plan
December: revision
January: learning new grammar and vocabulary
February: reading and writing
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-11-30, 23:03

Wait, you're learning Chatino?!? :o

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby Irusia » 2017-12-01, 22:19

vijayjohn wrote:Wait, you're learning Chatino?!? :o

Why not? Honestly, it was a random choice. It just happened to be listed as the language of the day for 30th of November.
(I had an interesting idea: I decided to learn for a year the language of my birthday, but unfortunately that language was impossible to learn for me, because it had very few speakers and no resources available on the internet, so I decided to choose the next one).
The language is interesting, and I will also have a chance to practice Spanish, because some resources are in Spanish. I am going to learn it only this year, though.
But I think I will concentrate on Greenlandic than on Chatino.
But, to be honest, neither of the languages is a priority to me, as I am focusing more on other languages now.
I planned not to return to Greenlandic until I reach an advanced level in English, Estonian and Spanish but then I found out about the Powwow and I just couldn't resist. :)
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby Irusia » 2017-12-01, 22:32

Revision of intransitive verb conjugation.

Some verbs from memory (the second one is negative):

"To say":
oqarpunga, oqanngilanga
oqarputit, oqanngilatit
oqarpoq, oqanngilaq
oqarpugut, oqanngilagut
oqarpusi, oqanngilasi
oqarput, oqanngillat


"To eat":
nerivunga, nerinngilanga
nerivutit, nerinngilatit
nerivoq, nerinngilaq
nerivugut, nerinngilagut
nerivusi, nerinngilasi
neripput, nerinngillat


"To read"
atuarpunga, atuanngilanga
atuarputit, atuanngilatit
atuarpoq, atuanngilaq
atuarpugut, atuanngilagut
atuarpusi, atuanngilasi
atuarput, atuanngillat
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby Irusia » 2017-12-01, 22:42

I am going to use this site for Chatino.
Archive of the Indigenous Languages of Latin America also has some resourses for the language.
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-01, 23:00

Irusia, I have resources for Chatino. I know two native speakers personally, witnessed grad students (including those two speakers) working (outside the field, not in Oaxaca) on documenting it for a whole semester, and started developing a speech recognizer for it. AILLA is hosted by my alma mater.

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby księżycowy » 2017-12-01, 23:05

How is Irusia suppose to know that?

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-01, 23:13

She isn't. I'm just pleasantly surprised because I've never seen anyone else mention Chatino before.
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby księżycowy » 2017-12-01, 23:13

Ok then. :P

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-02, 0:16

I have a whole folder on my machine with tons of resources for Chatino, several papers (some in Spanish, most in English), comments on some of those papers, and at least four dictionaries and a few wordlists for more than one variety. It also has some tangentially related stuff, like a list of indigenous languages in Mexico and how many villages within a certain area speak each one. I'm not sure how to share it with anyone who's interested, though. :( I guess I'd just have to make it a .tar.gz file?

I don't speak Chatino or anything, but I might be able to help! :)

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby księżycowy » 2017-12-02, 0:21

If you had something like a Google account/drive or any of the other cloud storage, it would be easy enough. You wouldn't have to upload it as one big file, just upload the folder and let the drive do the rest.

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-02, 2:32

Of course! Why didn't I think of that? :P

Okay, Irusia, I'm going to PM it to you in case you're interested. Anyone else who's interested can contact me as well. (This is a public part of the forum, accessible even to non-UniLangers, so I'm not sure I want to make it accessible by just anybody and everybody, especially since I did not write up most of this myself).

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby księżycowy » 2017-12-02, 10:10

Glad I could help. :wink:

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-12-03, 3:22

Yeah, thanks for doing that! :)

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut + Chatino)

Postby Irusia » 2017-12-06, 12:43

I've just completed the memrise course "Greenlandic intransitive verbs", revised the indicative mood and learned the interrogative mood.
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut, Chatino, Inuktitut)

Postby Irusia » 2017-12-07, 21:22

I started learning Inuktitut syllabary. :D
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut, Chatino, Inuktitut)

Postby Irusia » 2017-12-21, 17:48

I'm quitting. :(
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut, Chatino, Inuktitut)

Postby księżycowy » 2017-12-21, 18:01

Aw. I'm sad to see you go.

But thanks for participating as much as you did! :D

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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut, Chatino, Inuktitut)

Postby Irusia » 2017-12-31, 10:39

I've decided to continue. But only with Greenlandic, because I do not have time for all three languages, unfortunately.
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Re: NAILC 2017 - Irusia (Kalaallisut)

Postby księżycowy » 2017-12-31, 10:41

Glad to have you back! :D


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