Question about Navajo pronunciation

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Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby Mizton » 2013-04-05, 15:35

Hello, guys

I just would like to know how to pronounce "gídí". Thank you very much.
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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby księżycowy » 2013-04-05, 20:12

Short of being a native speaker, I'd say:
/gí.dí/

"Geedee" all in high tone. Though I wouldn't be suprised if the g and d were "softened" like in most Native American languages.

Let's see if anyone else comes along to help.

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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby Mizton » 2013-04-05, 20:21

All right, thank you very much księżycowy :)
Let's see if somebody has anything else to say.
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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby linguoboy » 2013-04-05, 20:24

księżycowy wrote:"Geedee" all in high tone. Though I wouldn't be suprised if the g and d were "softened" like in most Native American languages.

What do you mean "softened"?
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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby księżycowy » 2013-04-05, 20:33

Spoken as though between a /g/ and a /k/, for example.

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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby linguoboy » 2013-04-05, 20:40

księżycowy wrote:Spoken as though between a /g/ and a /k/, for example.

How do you mean? Unvoiced but lenis, as in Dhegiha Siouan? Partially devoiced? If anything, devoicing is usually described as "hardening".
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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby księżycowy » 2013-04-05, 21:14

I'm not up on all the technical terms, so I'll "cheat" with wikipedia. They have [k] for <g> and [t] for <d>. Therefore my ealier IPA transcription was wrong: /kí.tí/

And I was talking about the way consonants are partially devoiced, such as in Mohawk (that one I know has that phenomenon via earlier discussions with Formiko). Which is usually affected by the surrounding sounds.

A general browsing of the page for Navajo says nothing about that, but then again neither does the Mohawk page, so . . . .

Thanks for asking me to clarify Linguoboy. I learned a thing or two. :wink:

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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby limoneneis » 2013-04-07, 10:54

As far as I remember the 'i's should be short as in 'bit'. Or as in 'kitten'. Doesn't it mean cat anyway?
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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby limoneneis » 2013-04-07, 11:00

You can listen to the pronunciation on this website:
http://www.lapahie.com/Glossary_Dine_English_G_Gh_Btfm.cfm
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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby Mizton » 2013-04-07, 19:23

Thank you limoneneis. The audio files don't work for me though. Do they work for you?
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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby księżycowy » 2013-04-07, 21:55

They work just fine for me. My computer opened them in Quicktime if that's any help.

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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby ceid donn » 2013-04-19, 20:29

Since this is a loanword from English--"kitty"--it's pronounced fairly close to how "kitty" is pronounced in English, almost like the English word "giddy" but with the consonants more clearly articulated and more even stress on both syllables.

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Re: Question about Navajo pronunciation

Postby Mizton » 2013-04-19, 20:32

Wow, thank you very much!
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